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diskreet 03-03-2005 12:44 PM

Need help figuring out what to do/buy?!
 
Sorry to make a new thread since there are a billion of these guys but I don't know where to start when it comes to suspension. My only suspersion book I have is from '86 so its as old as me(but still extremly helpful).


Photochop with about 1/2 inch drop..so basically what it will look like no drop:
also excuse the crappy job on the headlights i took the pic before i cleared.
http://premium1.uploadit.org/diskreet//civic2_l.jpg

Anyway I have an 01 LX sedan, no performance/suspersion mods, and this april Ill be getting those nice split 7 spoke HFP wheels as a birthday gift. I will be putting toyo Proxes 4's on the wheels too.

Right now Im torn between doing something fun like lambo doors or lowering the car. Im pretty sure the car will look OK w/o a drop cause of the 55,0000 miles on the shocks and the subs/dynamat in the trunk pushing everything down a little. I dont want to put just springs on cause that day the shocks will blow due to age and ill be SOL on $600 to replace them.
So... what would you recommend...Tokiko/Koni/Tein shocks and stock springs, Tokiko/Koni/Tein shocks and lowering springs, coilover system, or let it go. I wont be doing anything for a while but I really want to get a feel for what I will need to save up for my car. Another thing I dont want is a neg camber and I cant afford lowering + camber kit (:( college)
Im leaning toward nothing to save me so so much money in the end..but any opinions of cheap options other than cutting the springs like a ricer? :p Thanks guys and sorry for not getting this on my own.

Nameless 03-03-2005 01:27 PM

Dont do lambo doors if your car is still stock (appearance wise). If you have the money, getting a full coilover kit is always nice but its not necessary. Do you plan on tracking your car at all? If not, your car is probably just a daily driver so I would suggest getting something like tokico hp blues because they are not too expensive. The amount you lower is upto you really.. just look at the suspension drop picture post that is stickied to get an idea of what you want.

good luck! :D i'm sure other members can give u better info

Boilermaker1 03-03-2005 02:44 PM

F*** lambo doors, they're useless.
For a low budget safe drop, Tokicos and Pro-kits. It'll also keep your alignment close enough to spec that you shouldn't need to buy camber kits if you can live with a little negative camber (nothing detrimental to tire life).

If you just want to keep it from flopping around, then just put in a set of Tokicos and leave the stock springs, but the car will definately look better with a little bit of a drop.

diskreet 03-03-2005 07:24 PM

I wont track..this is my daily driver...and i mean like at least 800-1400 miles per month. So i drive alot and dont want to be too low and dont want to go from stock. I am wondering if its worth it. I will just wait till they are on and go from there I guess.
As for body being stock...i changed to altezza grill..and i have eyelids for the summer and painted hood molding. Also I have removed all pinstriping and emblems other than rear H. I will be adding HFP emblems though.
but close to stock.
I dont know cause the paint is pretty bad on the car and I am really wanting to get it sprayed over. So uncle sam isnt gunna pay for new suspension and paint. not when hes only giving me like 5-7 hundred. This is where most of the money i will have for this is coming from too. So I am just gunna wait it out. thanks for the replies though.

civic01vtec 03-03-2005 07:32 PM

It is a little pricey, but i have tein ss and i love them. Maybe if you are on a budget, just get the basics.

I can give you a ride sometime to show you how they feel.

dannn 03-03-2005 07:37 PM

if youre daily driving it you should get the tein basics
if not get a good shock and spring combo.

i just ordered a set of KYB AGX with gold lines.

make sure if youre getting springs that they are made for a sedan

i had the stechs, they fit but they sag real bad in the rear.

flipbagz 03-03-2005 07:46 PM

^^ make a review for goldlines/agx pls :D

diskreet 03-03-2005 07:57 PM

dayam $925 for tein basics from dezod. thats so much plus how much to get them installed since I am sick of tearing my car apart?
Wow thats very pricy. Ill stay stock till I see how they look and maybe by some stroke of luck my car will sag a tiny bit more by then :)
:crossedfingers:

dannn 03-03-2005 08:31 PM


Originally Posted by flipbagz
^^ make a review for goldlines/agx pls :D

for sure
i cant wait til i get them on

jwsisme 03-03-2005 10:24 PM

Nice choice of wheels, looks sweet.

diskreet 03-04-2005 07:07 AM

Thanks cant wait to get them on for real.

WhiteHalf 03-04-2005 02:31 PM

Honestly, best bet ($$$ wise) .. would be Tokiko HP (blues) + Neuspeed Sport spring.

The neuspeed sport drop is 1.5f/1.75r ... The front camber is perfect and the back is just slightly cambered in ... but I've been on them for the last year ... and when I took off my tires (215/40ZR/18) there was no inner wear. Again its up to you ... but a rear camber kit is like $200 CDN ... so in USD thats like free or something.

A coilover setup is more pricey ... but is the entire shot, made to fit perfectly. I dunno if it snows in PA ... but here where I live it does ... So from what I've heard despite them being rustproof ... I've heard you have to keep them greased up well or dirt and grit gets into the threading .. and causes problems come spring time.

A prokit will be ok ... but IMO you'll still have a large gap, and the stance will look off when putting up a 17" rim/18" rim with a thin profiled tire ... but then again thats just my opinion.

WhiteHalf 03-04-2005 02:33 PM

The reason I'd also choose Neuspeed is because they didnt have the rear sag problem associated with Goldlines (even though goldlines are slightly cheaper) ... but they are also not as pricey as Eibachs ...

Good quality, decent price ...

and for those springs you'll only need the 2 rear camber kit ... do it all at the same time to save the wheel alignment fee's/labour.

diskreet 03-04-2005 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by WhiteHalf
Honestly, best bet ($$$ wise) .. would be Tokiko HP (blues) + Neuspeed Sport spring.

The neuspeed sport drop is 1.5f/1.75r ... The front camber is perfect and the back is just slightly cambered in ... but I've been on them for the last year ... and when I took off my tires (215/40ZR/18) there was no inner wear. Again its up to you ... but a rear camber kit is like $200 CDN ... so in USD thats like free or something.

A coilover setup is more pricey ... but is the entire shot, made to fit perfectly. I dunno if it snows in PA ... but here where I live it does ... So from what I've heard despite them being rustproof ... I've heard you have to keep them greased up well or dirt and grit gets into the threading .. and causes problems come spring time.

A prokit will be ok ... but IMO you'll still have a large gap, and the stance will look off when putting up a 17" rim/18" rim with a thin profiled tire ... but then again thats just my opinion.


itll be only 16" wheels as in the pic so I can get away with a LITTLE more gap than usual. Like I said I need to see them on first cause as it is I might think it looks ok stock height so we will see then. I gotta get back to painting my grill though!

WhiteHalf 03-05-2005 12:51 PM

Ohh man ... riding stock height on rims, even 16" is not that clean (unless you dont mind taking the SUV/"going off roading" jokes).

I mean everyone is different, if you like it that is what counts.

diskreet 03-05-2005 09:43 PM

I dunno i was looking today my car next to someone's 7th gen (at supermarket) and my rear is ALOT lower after the extra 200 pounds of subs, box, mdf, and dynamat layers. But front looks too high. Like i said i will wait to see how it looks and go from there. if nothing else At least ill get to see it stock height before jumping into a costly descision when money is tight already!

dirtySAMURAI 03-05-2005 10:07 PM


Originally Posted by diskreet
I will be adding HFP emblems though.

please, don't. that's the equivalent, IMO, to adding type-r badges, or even worse, GT-R badges to your car. it's just rice if it didn't come with the car.

diskreet 03-05-2005 10:14 PM


Originally Posted by infinite012
please, don't. that's the equivalent, IMO, to adding type-r badges, or even worse, GT-R badges to your car. it's just rice if it didn't come with the car.

...The wheels are HFP wheels. :shrug: thought it would be ok cause of that.
am i wrong people?

dirtySAMURAI 03-06-2005 03:06 PM

if you got civic type-r wheels, would you be putting type-r badges on your car?


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