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310civicEX 03-16-2018 11:22 PM

2001 LX p0141 location
 
i put a vtec motor in a 2001 lx .. has a header with 2 bungs.... the top hole (upstream) has an 02 sensor with a grey connector at the harness... its only throwing 1 code p0141 downstream 02.. but there is litterally knowhere to plug it in (downstream) 02... the EX has the 02 connector near the firewall..this LX does not have that one, for some reason this LX only has the one connector near the thermostat housing. does anyone have any info on where the downstream 02 p0141 plug into the harness?

310civicEX 03-16-2018 11:40 PM

Re: 2001 LX p0141 location
 


/\ this guy changes the upstream ( blue connector) thats the one i dont have on my 2001 LX.... im confused because im not throwing an upstream code.. but i got the downstream connected..and im getting that code.. im wondering if the 2001 LX didnt come with a blue connector?

ezone 03-17-2018 12:18 AM

Re: 2001 LX p0141 location
 
On a D17A1 harness, Both O2 sensor connectors are supposed to be together near the stat housing

You used the original non-vtec harness, yes? Not the harness for the vtec engine?

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.civ...a88e700e5b.jpg

310civicEX 03-17-2018 12:25 AM

Re: 2001 LX p0141 location
 

Originally Posted by ezone (Post 4741859)
On a D17A1 harness, Both O2 sensor connectors are supposed to be together near the stat housing

You used the original non-vtec harness, yes? Not the harness for the vtec engine?

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.civ...a88e700e5b.jpg

well its a A2 with an LX harness and an aftermarket header... the blue connector is noth on the harness at all... and i have the grey one plugged in and the upstream code went away.. but the blue MISSING one is upstream.. im so confused

Slumpertcivic 03-17-2018 01:47 AM

Re: 2001 LX p0141 location
 
If they installed the new engine harness correctly, you should have the downstream O2 sensor connector just inside the tunnel near your AC drip hose.

310civicEX 03-17-2018 08:50 AM

Re: 2001 LX p0141 location
 

Originally Posted by Slumpertcivic (Post 4741862)
If they installed the new engine harness correctly, you should have the downstream O2 sensor connector just inside the tunnel near your AC drip hose.

its an LX harness

ezone 03-17-2018 09:48 AM

Re: 2001 LX p0141 location
 
LX non-vtec harness......
Sounds like connector for sensor 2 might have gotten misplaced, tucked back in a spot and forgotten when the engine was replaced.

Follow the existing sensor connector to the main engine harness and look there for the branch that leads to the "missing" connector..

310civicEX 03-17-2018 09:52 AM

Re: 2001 LX p0141 location
 

Originally Posted by ezone (Post 4741872)
LX non-vtec harness......
Sounds like connector for sensor 2 might have gotten misplaced, tucked back in a spot and forgotten when the engine was replaced.

Follow the existing sensor connector to the main engine harness and look there for the branch that leads to the "missing" connector..

is the blue connector in the same wire group with the gray one? as pictured... or does that one plum from somewhere else?

ezone 03-17-2018 10:03 AM

Re: 2001 LX p0141 location
 
Both should 'branch' out of the main harness at the same location IIRC
(they both have to end up in the same spot, so it makes perfect sense they both come out of the harness at the same spot)

I have a diagram that shows both harness connectors for front and rear sensors should be gray ...... blue was not used on the early cars

Slumpertcivic 03-17-2018 12:06 PM

Re: 2001 LX p0141 location
 

Originally Posted by 310civicEX (Post 4741867)
its an LX harness

Well if it was a stock LX harness the two plugs would be side by side and nothing would control the vtec....

ezone 03-17-2018 01:59 PM

Re: 2001 LX p0141 location
 

i put a vtec motor in a 2001 lx .. has a header with 2 bungs
The CAR already had the header in it? Did it ever have a rear sensor since the header install?

310civicEX 03-17-2018 03:15 PM

Re: 2001 LX p0141 location
 
No 02 plug at the firewall ex location...
only one plug in front at the no-vtec location..

is it possible the early 2001 civics only had one 02? Also the vtec plug is there and it is plugged in..the owner said they put a ex harness in..

Slumpertcivic 03-17-2018 03:27 PM

Re: 2001 LX p0141 location
 

Originally Posted by 310civicEX (Post 4741897)
the owner said they put a ex harness in..

Exactly..... I suggest pulling off the resonator and air box and having a good look around for your downstream O2 connector somewhere back there.

ezone 03-17-2018 04:47 PM

Re: 2001 LX p0141 location
 

Originally Posted by 310civicEX (Post 4741897)

is it possible the early 2001 civics only had one 02?

Impossible.







Also the vtec plug is there and it is plugged in..the owner said they put a ex harness in..
EX engine harness? That changes everything.

Congratulations, you have a homesick a****ion. The connector for the rear O2 sensor is not part of the engine harness.

310civicEX 03-17-2018 11:01 PM

Re: 2001 LX p0141 location
 

Originally Posted by ezone (Post 4741905)
Impossible.






EX engine harness? That changes everything.

Congratulations, you have a homesick a****ion. The connector for the rear O2 sensor is not part of the engine harness.

wait.... so the downstream 02 connector is NOT part of the harness? where does it plug into then? lol

Colin42 03-18-2018 07:31 AM

Re: 2001 LX p0141 location
 

Originally Posted by 310civicEX (Post 4741935)
wait.... so the downstream 02 connector is NOT part of the harness? where does it plug into then? lol

Underneath the shifter it sticks into the middle of the cat on the OEM setup

310civicEX 03-18-2018 10:05 AM

Re: 2001 LX p0141 location
 

Originally Posted by Colin42 (Post 4741967)
Underneath the shifter it sticks into the middle of the cat on the OEM setup

do you have a picture of it?

Colin42 03-18-2018 01:43 PM

Re: 2001 LX p0141 location
 

Originally Posted by 310civicEX (Post 4741971)
do you have a picture of it?

Nope, you'll have to slide under and see what's there. Might have to get that harness from the junkyard.

310civicEX 03-18-2018 01:46 PM

Re: 2001 LX p0141 location
 
My trans tunnel and firewall areas show no sign of downstream 02 sensor connector .. but up from only has one 02 plug

Colin42 03-18-2018 04:20 PM

Re: 2001 LX p0141 location
 

Originally Posted by 310civicEX (Post 4741978)
My trans tunnel and firewall areas show no sign of downstream 02 sensor connector .. but up from only has one 02 plug

Looks like a junkyard trip is in order then

ezone 03-18-2018 04:46 PM

Re: 2001 LX p0141 location
 

Originally Posted by 310civicEX (Post 4741935)
wait.... so the downstream 02 connector is NOT part of the harness? where does it plug into then? lol

The LX car doesn't have what you want.

The EX rear sensor connection comes from one of the dashboard harnesses, but they use different dash harnesses, the harness in the lx car is not prewired for it

The wires for the rear sensor are not in the same places on the different PCMs either


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