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ken4444 10-09-2015 06:01 PM

Any benefit to speaker upgrade?
 
I am hesitant to rip the factory head unit out of my 2014 LX Civic Sedan, but I would consider replacing the factory speakers to get better sound. The factory system works great, but the sound doesn't seem to creep beyond 120 to 14KHz.

Has anyone just changed out just the speakers? If so, how did the sound change, and what speakers did you use?

jordan1794 10-10-2015 03:47 PM

Re: Any benefit to speaker upgrade?
 
I'm going to be doing so soon. I plan on eventually getting an amplifier to run Alpine 6.5" type R's all around, but I'm going to get the speakers first.
(2014 EX Sedan)

When I do so I'll revisit this post.

I can say replacing the stock speakers in my 2006 with Kenwoods made a MASSIVE difference in the sound quality. I'd imagine it would be pretty noticeable in the 2014. (although it's speakers are significantly better than the stock ones in the 2006)

Mad Dog Tannen 10-11-2015 10:09 PM

Re: Any benefit to speaker upgrade?
 
After market speakers should sound much better that the stock paper cone ones. Not sure if they will go louder though.

Stock decks generally have poor sound quality, intrusive filters and few adjustments, so a deck would also be an improvement.

ken4444 10-12-2015 07:06 AM

Re: Any benefit to speaker upgrade?
 

Originally Posted by Mad Dog Tannen (Post 4695075)
After market speakers should sound much better that the stock paper cone ones. Not sure if they will go louder though.

Stock decks generally have poor sound quality, intrusive filters and few adjustments, so a deck would also be an improvement.

So, that's my worry: I start with a simple upgrade of the factory speakers to something like the Infinity Kappa 62.11I which claims a sensitivity of 95 db, only to start thinking about the next upgrade which would likely be an amplifier and a subwoofer. Then the limitations of the factory stereo will be even more obvious and the temptation to pull out the head unit starts to creep in. That of course brings a lot of hassle and complexity with it. So, like an addict, I will start down the road of the factory speaker upgrade and hope that I can draw the line there.

Mad Dog Tannen 10-12-2015 09:56 AM

Re: Any benefit to speaker upgrade?
 

Originally Posted by ken4444 (Post 4695087)
So, that's my worry: I start with a simple upgrade of the factory speakers to something like the Infinity Kappa 62.11I which claims a sensitivity of 95 db, only to start thinking about the next upgrade which would likely be an amplifier and a subwoofer. Then the limitations of the factory stereo will be even more obvious and the temptation to pull out the head unit starts to creep in. That of course brings a lot of hassle and complexity with it. So, like an addict, I will start down the road of the factory speaker upgrade and hope that I can draw the line there.

That is not what I am saying.

I am saying, replacing just the stock speakers by themselves will improve quality significantly without an amp.

The stock deck should power them fine without an amp, and they will sound better than stock.

If you get a decent deck (around $100 for a Kenwood), it will improve the sound quality as well and would give some modern features like bluetooth (depending on which deck).

I think you could do a $100 Kenwood deck, with some $75 (per pair) speakers (i use polk audios and like memphis audio as well) and get great sound quality (without an amp). The only think you would be lacking is some low base tones that you would need a subwoofer for.

So basically for about $300 and some elbow grease, you could get a great sounding stereo (with no subs or amps).

That is a good starting point. If you want to go bigger or have subwoofers that boom, $ is your only limiting factor.

Mad Dog Tannen 10-12-2015 10:05 AM

Re: Any benefit to speaker upgrade?
 

Originally Posted by ken4444 (Post 4695087)
So, that's my worry: I start with a simple upgrade of the factory speakers to something like the Infinity Kappa 62.11I which claims a sensitivity of 95 db, only to start thinking about the next upgrade which would likely be an amplifier and a subwoofer. Then the limitations of the factory stereo will be even more obvious and the temptation to pull out the head unit starts to creep in. That of course brings a lot of hassle and complexity with it. So, like an addict, I will start down the road of the factory speaker upgrade and hope that I can draw the line there.

Those kappas look great. I wouldn't get them, unless I was getting an amp and deck for them. If you running straight from the deck (no amp) then I would get something a little cheaper.

It all depends how much you want to spend, and how big you want to go.

ken4444 10-12-2015 01:58 PM

Re: Any benefit to speaker upgrade?
 

Originally Posted by Mad Dog Tannen (Post 4695090)
That is not what I am saying.

I am saying, replacing just the stock speakers by themselves will improve quality significantly without an amp.

Okay this is good information. I like the simplicity of just a speaker upgrade. If the sound quality increase will be good, then it would be worth the expense.

The infinity speakers are likely a better value over similar options from Focal and Morel, especially considering the poor sound quality of the factory head unit.

Mad Dog Tannen 10-12-2015 03:59 PM

Re: Any benefit to speaker upgrade?
 

Originally Posted by ken4444 (Post 4695106)
Okay this is good information. I like the simplicity of just a speaker upgrade. If the sound quality increase will be good, then it would be worth the expense.

The infinity speakers are likely a better value over similar options from Focal and Morel, especially considering the poor sound quality of the factory head unit.

Infinities (and others you mentioned) are high end and basically overkill if you are just doing the speakers with a stock deck.

How much do you want to spend? because that is the only thing limiting.

ken4444 10-12-2015 07:12 PM

Re: Any benefit to speaker upgrade?
 

Originally Posted by Mad Dog Tannen (Post 4695113)
Infinities (and others you mentioned) are high end and basically overkill if you are just doing the speakers with a stock deck.

How much do you want to spend? because that is the only thing limiting.

The Infinity 62.11I is around $140 a pair, so under $300 for two sets shipped. I can deal with that. If I get 10 years out of this car than that works out to $2.50 a month for the speakers, or 8 cents a day :)

Mad Dog Tannen 10-12-2015 07:53 PM

Re: Any benefit to speaker upgrade?
 

Originally Posted by ken4444 (Post 4695124)
The Infinity 62.11I is around $140 a pair, so under $300 for two sets shipped. I can deal with that. If I get 10 years out of this car than that works out to $2.50 a month for the speakers, or 8 cents a day :)

It's your $.

I kinda take some stuff back, I just noticed that this was 8th and 9th gen. Your stock speakers may be better quality than my 6th gen, you will have to see for yourself.

If they do have trash stock ones then I would get a deck and speakers for $300, It will probably produce great overall quality. Better than just really expensive speakers.

If it has quality speakers then I would just get a deck. Factory decks always have lame adjustments and are have a built in equalizer mix that usually sucks. Plus it probably won't have all of the modern features like pandora compatibility.

ken4444 10-12-2015 08:07 PM

Re: Any benefit to speaker upgrade?
 

Originally Posted by Mad Dog Tannen (Post 4695127)
..If they do have trash stock ones then I would get a deck and speakers for $300, It will probably produce great overall quality. Better than just really expensive speakers.

If it has quality speakers then I would just get a deck...

I have an LX, so assume a low end factory stereo and speakers. I looked a the rear deck speakers from the trunk and they don't look to be of any great quality physically: thin, stamped sheet metal frame and tiny magnet. The cones do seem like they are plastic, so this is probably an attempt to make them last longer than paper cones would. But of course plastic can get brittle too depending on its specific ingredients.

For a car that I will drive less than 5,000 miles a year, I'm not inclined to worry too much about the stereo.

Anyhow, I will drop in some good aftermarket speakers front and back and report back with details.

Mikeyyy 04-22-2016 07:47 PM

Re: Any benefit to speaker upgrade?
 
ken4444: have you done anything yet??

ken4444 07-25-2016 06:38 PM

Re: Any benefit to speaker upgrade?
 

Originally Posted by Mikeyyy (Post 4706551)
ken4444: have you done anything yet??

Unfortunately, no. I have decided to live with the factory speakers.

Mikeyyy 07-26-2016 03:45 PM

Re: Any benefit to speaker upgrade?
 
well I did, I had my front speakers changed out to some infinity reference and also got a new head unit a basic pioneer cd radio unit. Much better sound and with the new head unit i have even noticed the stock rears sound a lil better than before. I took reading of how far up i turned old radio and tried to match it to same as newer and noticed that at same levels newer sounds louder, clearer and gets better as i turn it up. the infintys have a sensitivity of 92 DB Thinking of an amp when I get my work bonus in sept.

5hamers 08-06-2016 08:25 PM

Re: Any benefit to speaker upgrade?
 
I got a sony deck with acoustic speakers sounds a lot better now
well worth it.


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