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maverickfhs 08-25-2017 10:32 AM

2008 Civic LX Shaking/Vibrating Question?
 
So I test drove a 2008 Honda Civic LX yesterday, it was vibrating around 14-16mph(like slight shaking). Like car was hesitating, noticed it around 2 times at the similar speeds.

ATF fluid looked a bit dark, couldn't really tell since it was bit late.

Question is, what would it be? Can a simple drain/refill of ATF 2-3 times cure the problem or it'll be something major?

Never noticed anything at highway speeds or any other ones.

Owner said ATF has been replaced, but he doesn't know about kind of fluid, since it was done at a shop.

Any thoughts or opinions from experts https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/im...ault/smile.gif Thanks

ezone 08-25-2017 10:36 AM

Re: 2008 Civic LX Shaking/Vibrating Question?
 
If it's only doing it at certain speeds and probably just after the trans makes a shift, I'd guess TCC shudder. Fluid is probably rather dark, not pink?

Yes, first step is trans fluid service, possibly multiple times. Use the correct DW-1 fluid from Honda.

maverickfhs 08-25-2017 10:39 AM

Re: 2008 Civic LX Shaking/Vibrating Question?
 

Originally Posted by ezone (Post 4729584)
If it's only doing it at certain speeds and probably just after the trans makes a shift, I'd guess TCC shudder. Fluid is probably rather dark, not pink?

Yes, first step is trans fluid service, possibly multiple times. Use the correct DW-1 fluid from Honda.

Thanks EZ, yes it's rather dark not at all pink as it's in my car :P

Can it be CV axle or anything along those lines?

It happened only 14-16mph and not anywhere else. Yeah, ONLY Honda ATF.

maverickfhs 08-25-2017 10:40 AM

Re: 2008 Civic LX Shaking/Vibrating Question?
 
Also, regarding cylinder block cracking. Was it on certain VIN# and was 2008 affected ones too?

ezone 08-25-2017 12:00 PM

Re: 2008 Civic LX Shaking/Vibrating Question?
 

Can it be CV axle or anything along those lines?
No, not based on your description

Also, regarding cylinder block cracking. Was it on certain VIN# and was 2008 affected ones too?
The affected range was 2006 to early production 2009, and only a relative few have it happen. Certainly not all have it happen.

maverickfhs 08-25-2017 12:02 PM

Re: 2008 Civic LX Shaking/Vibrating Question?
 
Thanks EZ, so could it possibly be a ATF fluid being the culprit? After getting it, planning to do 2-3 drain and refills after each week.

Anyway engine block issue can be isolated with a VIN#?

ezone 08-25-2017 12:10 PM

Re: 2008 Civic LX Shaking/Vibrating Question?
 

so could it possibly be a ATF fluid being the culprit?
Fluid deterioration is the suspected cause. Most are fixed by simply changing fluid anywhere from 1 to 3 or 4 times, depending on condition.
IF fluid alone doesn't solve it, then it might need a torque converter replacement.

This is a big reason my dealer still recommends trans fluid services every 30k or even more frequently. We know what happens when this service is neglected.

Anyway engine block issue can be isolated with a VIN#?
No. No way to predict if it will ever happen.

maverickfhs 08-25-2017 01:06 PM

Re: 2008 Civic LX Shaking/Vibrating Question?
 

Originally Posted by ezone (Post 4729591)
Fluid deterioration is the suspected cause. Most are fixed by simply changing fluid anywhere from 1 to 3 or 4 times, depending on condition.
IF fluid alone doesn't solve it, then it might need a torque converter replacement.

This is a big reason my dealer still recommends trans fluid services every 30k or even more frequently. We know what happens when this service is neglected.
No. No way to predict if it will ever happen.

Absolutely, makes sense. Worst case, how much is torque converter replacement?

For now, planning to do at least 3 drain and refills. Then will take it from there, have not picked up the car yet.

mcnoople 08-25-2017 03:24 PM

Re: 2008 Civic LX Shaking/Vibrating Question?
 

Originally Posted by maverickfhs (Post 4729592)
Absolutely, makes sense. Worst case, how much is torque converter replacement?

.

Without actually consulting the parts catalog and labor times I would estimate the torque converter at $6-800 and the labor time to be around 8 hours. So figure 1500 or so to replace a converter.

But having said that. Yesterday I drove a customers 2008 era CRV with a shudder complaint. At 39-42 mph it felt like someone was hitting the car with a jackhammer. 3 transmission drain and refills later it was perfectly smooth. Some don't come out of it, but many do. If the vibration is light I would expect it to something that fluid would correct, if it is a TC shudder.

maverickfhs 08-25-2017 03:30 PM

Re: 2008 Civic LX Shaking/Vibrating Question?
 
Yeah way you are explaining, it's no where close to it. It's like someone is pushing the car back and forth, definitely indication something with transmission.

Thanks, will follow the advice of drain and refill!

ezone 08-25-2017 06:55 PM

Re: 2008 Civic LX Shaking/Vibrating Question?
 
Negotiate dropping the price by a grand because of this condition?

maverickfhs 08-25-2017 07:10 PM

Re: 2008 Civic LX Shaking/Vibrating Question?
 
He's a first owner and I can close the deal at $3850 with ~155k miles.

maverickfhs 09-22-2017 06:29 AM

Re: 2008 Civic LX Shaking/Vibrating Question?
 
Just to update, after 3 drain and refills transmission fluid is pink and there's no more shake.

I appreciate all the help. Thanks EZ!

brags 09-23-2017 09:50 AM

Re: 2008 Civic LX Shaking/Vibrating Question?
 
Aint it amazing ...! what using New fluid does for the trany. ?

enjoy the Civic :)


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