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Dapper Dan Man 01-04-2019 07:30 PM

Should I buy this 2004 for my daughter?
 
I'm all set to but this 2004 LX for my daughter.
110k miles. $3900.

Has a new timing chain, head gasket, water pump, radiator, and thermostat.
New tires. Very clean inside and out. Never hit, no damage.

Rear passenger window doesn't work.

Anything I need to check before I buy?

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Slumpertcivic 01-04-2019 08:53 PM

Re: Should I buy this 2004 for my daughter?
 
That’s a premium price, basically more than twice it’s book value
Receipts for all that work?
Who multipoint inspected it on a lift, and how’s the underbody?
Are the emissions monitors all rdy on a basic OBD reader?
Is the seller providing a copy of the CarFax report.
Google the VIN number to see what shows up?

Dead rear windows are very common, wireharness fails at door jamb or motor, certainly not a deal breaker but at premium price that should have been fixed by the seller..

As long as you can afford a head gasket / transmission replacement and everything else above was good she likely would get a lot of use from it.

Can’t say I would recommend any car without side SRS anymore which would be just a little bit newer, but amazingly more safe for your child in a crash.




Colin42 01-04-2019 09:19 PM

Re: Should I buy this 2004 for my daughter?
 
Way overpriced, dead window is probably broken wires as previously stated.

Dapper Dan Man 01-05-2019 06:36 PM

Re: Should I buy this 2004 for my daughter?
 

Originally Posted by Slumpertcivic (Post 4756222)
That’s a premium price, basically more than twice it’s book value
Receipts for all that work?
Who multipoint inspected it on a lift, and how’s the underbody?
Are the emissions monitors all rdy on a basic OBD reader?
Is the seller providing a copy of the CarFax report.
Google the VIN number to see what shows up?

Dead rear windows are very common, wireharness fails at door jamb or motor, certainly not a deal breaker but at premium price that should have been fixed by the seller..

As long as you can afford a head gasket / transmission replacement and everything else above was good she likely would get a lot of use from it.

Can’t say I would recommend any car without side SRS anymore which would be just a little bit newer, but amazingly more safe for your child in a crash.




Thanks for the response.
Where are you getting that book value?
Kelly Blue Book has it at 2900 to 4564, depending on condition. Are you talking about trade-in price?
This one is excellent except for the stuck window.
I've been looking at Craigslist for weeks, and the only Civics under 3500 have 150k + miles on them, and they're rough.

Dapper Dan Man 01-05-2019 06:50 PM

Re: Should I buy this 2004 for my daughter?
 

Originally Posted by Colin42 (Post 4756226)
Way overpriced, dead window is probably broken wires as previously stated.

Where are you getting your pricing? KBB is $3741. Range is 2900 to 4764 depending on condition. This one is excellent except for the window.

Colin42 01-05-2019 07:20 PM

Re: Should I buy this 2004 for my daughter?
 

Originally Posted by Dapper Dan Man (Post 4756285)
Where are you getting your pricing? KBB is $3741. Range is 2900 to 4764 depending on condition. This one is excellent except for the window.

I've bought 2 different 7th gens and 3 6th gen cars and I frequently check buy and sell websites looking at cars and parts.
I live in Canada, so I converted to Canadian $ and kms.

They are asking $5216 for a car with 177,000kms

I paid $2700 for an '05 car with 215,000 kms that was manual, fully loaded besides leather, tinted, with a set of good snow tires on rims. It only needed a wheel bearing. And was as clean as that car

My current car I paid $3500 for an '05 with 78,000kms. It's a more basic car, it only has a/c and and automatic. It came with snow tires as well. Needed nothing for safety.

​​​​​​​So in my opinion I'd pay $2500-$3000 Canadian, which would be like $1800-$2200 in Yankee Doodle money.

GolNat 01-05-2019 07:50 PM

Re: Should I buy this 2004 for my daughter?
 
$3900 sounds about right to me.

In my area a Civic in that good of condition would go for above 3k.

Was that Private Party or Dealer pricing?,

Slumpertcivic 01-05-2019 11:06 PM

Re: Should I buy this 2004 for my daughter?
 

Originally Posted by Dapper Dan Man (Post 4756284)
Kelly Blue Book has it at 2900 to 4564, depending on condition.

Well as “In Love” with the car as you seem to be, you should offer to pay more.

Seriously, I gave you half a dozen plus valid concerns you should have about the car and all you seem to be concerned about is what we consider the car is worth.

Forgot to ask, got receipts for transmission fluid changes?



mac25 01-06-2019 02:08 AM

Re: Should I buy this 2004 for my daughter?
 
For that milage I wouldn't go past $2500.

guitarsnlikker 01-06-2019 06:55 AM

Re: Should I buy this 2004 for my daughter?
 
to need a new head gasket at 110K miles would worry me.

GolNat 01-06-2019 11:45 AM

Re: Should I buy this 2004 for my daughter?
 

Originally Posted by guitarsnlikker (Post 4756306)
to need a new head gasket at 110K miles would worry me.

Common 7th gen issue.

Price around me is 2800-4400. In as good as shape that one looks to be in I would try to get it for $3500 but $3900 is still fair. It’s not a steal of a price but within reason. Around here if you want to pay under $2500 for a Civic it is going to be old, rough and have a lot of miles.

sdaidoji 01-06-2019 06:56 PM

Re: Should I buy this 2004 for my daughter?
 
just a small thing, but civic that year is still using timing belt, not chain

" head gasket, water pump, radiator, and thermostat. " - this basically tells that the gasket leaking is likely what caused the car to go for sale.

If no issues from gasket remains, go ahead? KBB have prices for location, so

bbhondaguy 02-05-2019 11:38 PM

Re: Should I buy this 2004 for my daughter?
 
that car is not over priced. jeez!

Bbeja 05-08-2019 02:00 PM

Re: Should I buy this 2004 for my daughter?
 

Originally Posted by Dapper Dan Man (Post 4756218)
I'm all set to but this 2004 LX for my daughter.
110k miles. $3900.

Has a new timing chain, head gasket, water pump, radiator, and thermostat.
New tires. Very clean inside and out. Never hit, no damage.

Rear passenger window doesn't work.

Anything I need to check before I buy?

[First Post. Hi - everyone!]

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To put it in comparison, I just bought the same vehicle in very good condition (minor dings) with only 73000 on the motor, no accidents or anything and everything works. Only thing messed up was the thermostat and oil pan gasket (costed me 30 bucks to fix) which knew about and didnt mind being they are very easy jobs. Bought it for 3000 which was still a little bit high. Your being ripped off whether in good condition or not. Great car for your daughter but get it down in price.


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