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civicowner123 08-17-2014 12:33 PM

Whobble at 80mph
 
I rotated my tires because it was starting wobble at 60mph. Now, it does it at 80. I have no idea what it could be. Any ideas?

bsmiley 08-17-2014 01:00 PM

Re: Whobble at 80mph
 
Two common things: Wheels need balancing and/or brake rotors or drum is warped/ out of round.
Neither will heal itself and it will get worse... If the brakes are involved it would likely be noticed when you use them, so I'd start with the wheel balance. If that doesn't solve it, look at the brakes.

kinakoes2 08-17-2014 02:54 PM

Re: Whobble at 80mph
 
Checked your lug nuts for proper torque?

ezone 08-17-2014 03:58 PM

Re: Whobble at 80mph
 

Originally Posted by civicowner123 (Post 4669588)
I rotated my tires because it was starting wobble at 60mph.

Rotating only moved the wobble to another corner of the car, that doesn't correct the wobble.

Evaluate the tires, and balance them if all are otherwise ok.

bsmiley 08-17-2014 06:46 PM

Re: Whobble at 80mph
 

Originally Posted by kinakoes2 (Post 4669595)
Checked your lug nuts for proper torque?

and please torque your lugs nuts properly after you wheels are balanced...

kinakoes2 08-17-2014 07:20 PM

Re: Whobble at 80mph
 
If rotating wheels to the opposite corners of the car... where do you feel the wobble? In the wheel, or in your seat?

If the wobble is due to a wheel on the front pair, you'll feel it through the wheel. If due to a rear wheel, it'll be felt more through your seat.

Moving the wheel from one corner to the opposite will also rule out out-of-service-limit rotors/drums, IF the wobble also moves to the opposite corner. ;)

bsmiley 08-17-2014 07:46 PM

Re: Whobble at 80mph
 
It can be difficult to determine where wobbles are coming from at 80mph. Years ago my sister once had something really wrong with her car. It turned out her front tire tread was really low and she was spinning the wheels in rain and snow. But to hear her describe it you'd have thought it was some major suspension issue. She is a bonafide genius who has zero mechanical feel... :lol:
At first I thought it was just her lugs weren't properly torqued... :)

kinakoes2 08-17-2014 09:21 PM

Re: Whobble at 80mph
 

Originally Posted by bsmiley (Post 4669619)
It can be difficult to determine where wobbles are coming from at 80mph.

Not really. Wheel shaking, front. Seat shaking, rear. If you can't tell which end of you is shaking more than the other... well, it takes all types. I'm sure the OP can, however. :p



At first I thought it was just her lugs weren't properly torqued... :)
Oh gawd... I've gotten my Civic AND my Escort back from a local Sears without proper torque set. Turns out the tech was a bit stingy and bought a bar-type torque wrench to do his 0.5-sec measurements :facepalm: ... which was off from the Snap-On Gold 3/8 clicker I brought to compare, by a full 8 lbs/ft. His svc mgr and I had a laugh... in his frowny face, of course. :giggle: So just having it professionally balanced, doesn't guarantee professional work. :hgrin: All techs esp flat-rate, feel the temptation to rush things and deal with the mistakes later. Pros that last don't give in to that, is the difference. :rolleyes:

Another thing I had to point out, was *how* he was torquing -- finger-snug, then fully-off the jack, then torque. :facepalm: At least he was cross-torquing across the wheel -- that's the only thing he wasn't effing up. :p

And bsmiley... btw... check your lug nut torque. :roflmao:

ezone 08-17-2014 09:47 PM

Re: Whobble at 80mph
 

All techs esp flat-rate, feel the temptation to rush things and deal with the mistakes later.

Pros that last don't give in to that, is the difference. :rolleyes:
These statements confuse me.



from a local Sears
Hmmm....

http://grooveshark.com/s/Lug+Nut+Day...it/xp49n?src=5

t.saia2394 08-17-2014 09:50 PM

Re: Whobble at 80mph
 
I wish I knew something about what you're asking, but I was wondering if someone could tell me how I can post my own question lololol. I know, I know.
I'm a noob lol

ezone 08-17-2014 09:55 PM

Re: Whobble at 80mph
 

Originally Posted by t.saia2394 (Post 4669629)
I wish I knew something about what you're asking, but I was wondering if someone could tell me how I can post my own question lololol. I know, I know.
I'm a noob lol

Follow this link: https://www.civicforums.com/forums/39-honda-civics-generation

Pick a generation, a subject, browse, search, whatever.

The path will look something like this

https://www.civicforums.com/forums/i...bits_start.gif Honda Civic Forum > Honda Civics by Generation > 7th Gen https://www.civicforums.com/forums/i...allink_ltr.gif Mechanical Problems/Vehicle Issues and Fix-it Forum

When you find a spot to make a post, find the button that says https://www.civicforums.com/forums/i.../newthread.gif and make your new thread.

And welcome to the forum!

HTH

bsmiley 08-17-2014 09:55 PM

Re: Whobble at 80mph
 
Ask anything you want, but make sure your lug nuts are torqued properly and trust Sears (they have pros who went to lug nut college).

ezone 08-17-2014 09:59 PM

Re: Whobble at 80mph
 

Originally Posted by bsmiley (Post 4669632)
Ask anything you want,

Except that one question.
Don't ask about that one, there is no statute of limitations on that one.....

kinakoes2 08-17-2014 11:14 PM

Re: Whobble at 80mph
 

Originally Posted by ezone (Post 4669628)
These statements confuse me.

Complain to the Statement Fraud department. :rofl:



Hmmm....
So... you have a balancer at home? 'Cause I live in an apartment. We've been over this. :hgrin:

All my Civic tires balanced perfectly on the machine, btw. Just the mounting demo he showed us almost made me spit out my sandwich. :_doh: The tech was a Micronesian who had a different idea about wheel install than I did. And by different idea, I mean 'wrong'. :facepalm: When I went to get my second set of Bridgestones last month, he was already gone. :shrug:

Hey... you try getting your homeland irradiated so badly by nuclear testing, the whole top few feet of an entire island had to be disposed of. That said... not a fan of the workers who come from there with gov't offers for guaranteed placement.



lug nut college
Is that 'the school of hard knocks (with your foot)'? Bet the certs are impressive. :hgrin:

And dammit smiley -- torque your LUG nuts, not THOSE nuts... and put the bottle down first. :giggle:

ezone 08-17-2014 11:28 PM

Re: Whobble at 80mph
 

Originally Posted by kinakoes2 (Post 4669638)
Complain to the Statement Fraud department. :rofl:

LOL!



So... you have a balancer at home?
At one point in my life I had a cone balancer.

kinakoes2 08-18-2014 12:44 AM

Re: Whobble at 80mph
 

Originally Posted by ezone (Post 4669640)
cone balancer

Had one (a No-Mar too, good one), sold it to fund the move back here... but obviously not one for cars... bike tires are a *lot* cheaper to do yourself than car tires. :P Accurate as hell, too... 1/2 gram on our team racebikes was the standard... anything below that, friction in the bearings kept us from seeing (ABEC 7 too, so not for lack of trying). :hgrin:

OP: let us know what you find re: where the wobble is coming from... just to get us from fishtailing in the mud to back on topic. ;)

civicowner123 08-18-2014 10:19 AM

Re: Whobble at 80mph
 
It's shaking at the steering wheel. This is something I need to go to the repair shop for it's a balancing issue right?

ezone 08-18-2014 12:39 PM

Re: Whobble at 80mph
 

Originally Posted by civicowner123 (Post 4669659)
This is something I need to go to the repair shop for

Yes.

civicowner123 08-18-2014 05:24 PM

Re: Whobble at 80mph
 
I'll go to the shop tomorrow and post back what happens.

Thanks yall

civicowner123 08-28-2014 11:54 PM

Re: Whobble at 80mph
 
Went to my local shop. They suggested I get at least 2 used tires, and that should fix the issue. I got 2 used one for $80, and they put them up front. It fixed the issue. I went over 100mph and no wobble what so ever, haha!


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