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jmiester96 12-03-2006 09:06 PM

Best tire size for road course with 16" rims
 
I have 205/40R16 tires on my 16" rotas. now those tires are way to small. I bought the rims used and they came iwth the tires. i have no drop. I want to get a bigger tire. One that will help fill the wheel well gap and look good. i'm really getting sick of the small tire and the horrible ride. Thanks.

Boilermaker1 12-03-2006 09:18 PM

look good or go fast? the 2 are contradictory.
Bigger problem is the lack of good tires in 16" sizes. You're gonna have to choose the size based on whats available, I doubt many of them are going to look good, just pick one that fits.
I ran 225/45/16 hankooks last year, which fit well on 8" rims, but I can see them being awfully flubby and squishy on a 7" rim. Try 205/50/16 or 215/45/16

jmiester96 12-03-2006 11:58 PM

whats the difference between those two tires? what would you do in my situation?

Boggie1688 12-04-2006 12:08 AM

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Width/Sidewall/Diameter of Rim

205/50/16 has a smaller width, larger sidewall and same rim sized compared to 215/45/16

Btw I would always try to go wider, as for side wall...I generally go smaller because you tend to have stiffer sidewalls.

Boilermaker1 12-04-2006 07:51 AM

with a stock motor, I'd go for the gearing advantage. With lots more power, I'd take a taller tire, power won't be an issue,but traction will. Taller gears will help quell some of the issue.

Zzyzx 12-04-2006 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by Boggie1688 (Post 4097009)
###/###/###
Width/Sidewall/Diameter of Rim

205/50/16 has a smaller width, larger sidewall and same rim sized compared to 215/45/16

Btw I would always try to go wider, as for side wall...I generally go smaller because you tend to have stiffer sidewalls.



The sidewall # isnt a fixed number... its a ratio.

Example;
A 205/50-16 has a side wall height of 4 inches.
A 215/45/16 has a side wall height of 3.8 inches
and for compairson,
a 225/45-16 has a side wall height of 4 inches.

Boggie1688 12-04-2006 12:36 PM

I knew it was a ratio, but Im not sure of what the ratio is between. I always thought it was just rim diameter, but clearly not from the example you give above.

Zzyzx 12-04-2006 03:14 PM

THe ratio is based on the section width.

Meaning, on a 215/45 tire, the side wall height will be equal to 45% of the section width. 215mm = 8.4646 inches 45% of 8.4646 = 3.8 inches.

Boggie1688 12-04-2006 03:50 PM

Can you explain what rob is talking about with gearing and size wall size?

Zzyzx 12-04-2006 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by Boggie1688 (Post 4097375)
Can you explain what rob is talking about with gearing and size wall size?


Thats actually quite a bit easier....

Your tires overall diamiter influence the final drive ratio of your cars transmision. "Shorter" tires will shorten the gear ratio, and taller tires will Lengthin the gear ratio. Shorter gearing will typically improve acceleration, at the cost of top speed, where Taller gears will hamper acceleration but increase your potential top speed. (Great article on it, thought it deals primialry with drag racing, but it still applies to circuit racing)

Boggie1688 12-04-2006 04:14 PM

Very cool...now how do I calculate the differences and how it will effect my 0-60 times?

Boilermaker1 12-04-2006 07:54 PM

Ummm 0-60 times? What kinda racing are you trying to do? The only time you're doing 0 is in the pit lane. I don't think any of us have actually timed out the difference, since all any of us are concerned about is how fast you can get the car revved up to the point where it actually wants to pull its own weight, which is what shorter tires do. Since you're limited to the tire sizes you can buy, the only thing you actually have to realize is what spencer told you... shorter than stock = acceleration, taller than stock = top speed. Take the acceleration. The shorter the tire, the bigger the gear advantage. Honestly, if you want the acceleration to be its maximum, keep the tires you have. Thats the shortest 16" tire you can buy. So theoretically, you have the "best" tire you can get from a tracking stand point, provided that it can handle the load rating of the car (which it probably cant). So step up one size taller from there... which is either 205/45 or 215/40, then 215/45 where you should be able to find something... one of those is a stock Lotus size.


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