what the best strut bars?
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what the best strut bars?
What companys make the best sturts bars? So far I have neuspeed and DCsport but I would like to have all the same strut bars.
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DC sports bars are crap! They are flimsy!
it depends on what kind of bar you want. For front bar the neuspeed . Neuspeed will fit with any CAI. I am not sure about the Mugen or spoon bars, but those should be great!! For rear, cusco!
it depends on what kind of bar you want. For front bar the neuspeed . Neuspeed will fit with any CAI. I am not sure about the Mugen or spoon bars, but those should be great!! For rear, cusco!
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Rep Power: 425 Mugen Rear won't fit (doesn't bolt to strut towers, bolts into a rail in the RSX body I don't think we have), and the Cusco front won't fit without fabricating custom firewall brackets.
That leaves the Mugen front upper ($260), All 4 Spoon bars ($190 F/U, $170 R/U, $160 F/L, $160R/L), and the Cusco Upper Rear ($175). I don't know if any clear a CAI, but they'll clear the Injen SRI. Get your bank account ready....
That leaves the Mugen front upper ($260), All 4 Spoon bars ($190 F/U, $170 R/U, $160 F/L, $160R/L), and the Cusco Upper Rear ($175). I don't know if any clear a CAI, but they'll clear the Injen SRI. Get your bank account ready....
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Rep Power: 0 I have the Neuspeed front lower X-brace which Im keeping on because it look just like all the other X-braces. I just want to replace the other two strut bar with better ones because I have the 22mm sway bar and Im planning to lower my car soon which I hear put alot of strees on the chassy. Im thinking about putting Spoon F/U, R/L and the Cusco R/U and keeping the F/L X-brace on, What do you guys think?
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rsxmotorsports.com, optionsauto.com and clubrsx.com are the only 3 places I know of that sell Cusco, and its all special order
Hondawerx sells the spoon, inlinefour.com sells spoon, importdevelopment.net sells spoon, I can go on and on... get on google and punch in spoon sports.
rsxmotorsports.com, optionsauto.com and clubrsx.com are the only 3 places I know of that sell Cusco, and its all special order
Hondawerx sells the spoon, inlinefour.com sells spoon, importdevelopment.net sells spoon, I can go on and on... get on google and punch in spoon sports.
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Rep Power: 369 I wouldn't consider spending so much on those bars.
spoon works.. but damn. talk about brand hype. cost wayyy too much.
the nuespeed front upper will work fine.
neuspeed also has a rear upper, rear lower...
the mugen rear upper works.. just gotta drill in the holes for it.
the mugen upper front fits too.. but doean't clear intakes... nor does spoon, nor does cusco.
only (to my knowledge) neuspeed, dc (which IMO is crap) and the OEM front upper strut bars found on the Type S and Type R.
personally. I'll get neuspeed front upper, ebay rear upper or neuspeed rear upper (which cost a butt load like any other rear upper), neuspeed rear lower or skunk2 rear lower.
they're just bars.
tires, springs/shocks, sway bars and wheel size will affect handling characteristics more than any strut/tie bar.
spoon works.. but damn. talk about brand hype. cost wayyy too much.
the nuespeed front upper will work fine.
neuspeed also has a rear upper, rear lower...
the mugen rear upper works.. just gotta drill in the holes for it.
the mugen upper front fits too.. but doean't clear intakes... nor does spoon, nor does cusco.
only (to my knowledge) neuspeed, dc (which IMO is crap) and the OEM front upper strut bars found on the Type S and Type R.
personally. I'll get neuspeed front upper, ebay rear upper or neuspeed rear upper (which cost a butt load like any other rear upper), neuspeed rear lower or skunk2 rear lower.
they're just bars.
tires, springs/shocks, sway bars and wheel size will affect handling characteristics more than any strut/tie bar.
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Rep Power: 0 Trust me strut bars are very importion when your upgrading your supention, I want to have the best parts I can get buy. I think Im just going get the spoon U/R, L/R. Why do you guys think dcsport and neuspeed is so bad?
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Rep Power: 369 I dont think neuspeed is so bad.
if you're going to ask about strut bars... and I give u another perspective on it.. u dont have to believe me. lol.
no, trust me.. they are not that important as the other things mentioned. the difference between good and bad tires.. well be felt much more than some front upper strut bar.
in either case they do stiffen the chassis up, if you buy the working ones.
but I'm just saying, spending more than $100 on a bar is kinda eh.
cuz if there's other things you can do first.. u probably should have done it.
I've got like 4 bars on my car right now (not including the sways) but I think a good set of tires would have done more than these have. or a simpe drop with a spring and paired with some stiffer shocks.
if you're going to ask about strut bars... and I give u another perspective on it.. u dont have to believe me. lol.
no, trust me.. they are not that important as the other things mentioned. the difference between good and bad tires.. well be felt much more than some front upper strut bar.
in either case they do stiffen the chassis up, if you buy the working ones.
but I'm just saying, spending more than $100 on a bar is kinda eh.
cuz if there's other things you can do first.. u probably should have done it.
I've got like 4 bars on my car right now (not including the sways) but I think a good set of tires would have done more than these have. or a simpe drop with a spring and paired with some stiffer shocks.
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Rep Power: 425 Originally posted by CapYoda
I wouldn't consider spending so much on those bars.
spoon works.. but damn. talk about brand hype. cost wayyy too much.
the nuespeed front upper will work fine.
neuspeed also has a rear upper, rear lower...
the mugen rear upper works.. just gotta drill in the holes for it.
the mugen upper front fits too.. but doean't clear intakes... nor does spoon, nor does cusco.
only (to my knowledge) neuspeed, dc (which IMO is crap) and the OEM front upper strut bars found on the Type S and Type R.
personally. I'll get neuspeed front upper, ebay rear upper or neuspeed rear upper (which cost a butt load like any other rear upper), neuspeed rear lower or skunk2 rear lower.
they're just bars.
tires, springs/shocks, sway bars and wheel size will affect handling characteristics more than any strut/tie bar.
I wouldn't consider spending so much on those bars.
spoon works.. but damn. talk about brand hype. cost wayyy too much.
the nuespeed front upper will work fine.
neuspeed also has a rear upper, rear lower...
the mugen rear upper works.. just gotta drill in the holes for it.
the mugen upper front fits too.. but doean't clear intakes... nor does spoon, nor does cusco.
only (to my knowledge) neuspeed, dc (which IMO is crap) and the OEM front upper strut bars found on the Type S and Type R.
personally. I'll get neuspeed front upper, ebay rear upper or neuspeed rear upper (which cost a butt load like any other rear upper), neuspeed rear lower or skunk2 rear lower.
they're just bars.
tires, springs/shocks, sway bars and wheel size will affect handling characteristics more than any strut/tie bar.
The Cusco Upper Front would probably clear an intake... the Neuspeed design is very similar to it, but the Cusco one bolts to 2 brackets that are on the firewall in the Integra Type R. They are currently developing a USDM version of the bar because there are differences in the firewall layout between the RHD and LHD versions. This is why the Cusco Bar doesn't fit.
the lower one is the front... you can see the firewall mounts.
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Rep Power: 565 DC Bars are WAY overpriced. For a tower brace I would use a Neuspeed. They mount far back towards the firewall leaving loads of room for the Intake.
I saw a guy get his car towed with a strap tied to his Neuspeed bar....lol.
I saw a guy get his car towed with a strap tied to his Neuspeed bar....lol.
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Rep Power: 0 What do you guys mean by "mounted to the firewall"? My neuspeed strut bolt onto the strut tower like all the other strut bars the only diffents is the strut is push way back. The main question is How good is the neuspeed strut tower?
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Rep Power: 565 Not mounted, they're just shaped so that the cross over is right against the firewall.
Check my ride and you'll see what I mean...I have a good pic of the Neuspeed bar on my engine pic.
Check my ride and you'll see what I mean...I have a good pic of the Neuspeed bar on my engine pic.
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Rep Power: 425 When I say mounted to the firewall, I mean that bar mounts to the strut towers and has brackets that bolt to brackets that are on the firewall it actually mounts to the firewall.
Don't concern yourself with it, you can't get one cuz no one will import it since it doesn't fit US models, and it wouldn't fit or work right without welding the brackets to the firewall... they're in RSX's but we don't have them.
Don't concern yourself with it, you can't get one cuz no one will import it since it doesn't fit US models, and it wouldn't fit or work right without welding the brackets to the firewall... they're in RSX's but we don't have them.
mounting to the firewall is a form of triangulation. most hard-core sports cars, including the new Evo, have reinforcements that do this. I think most of my bars, with the exception of the x-brace, contribute very little. Still, they look cool and made me happy. grrrr!
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Rep Power: 0 I have a question for anyone that has the spoon rear strut towers. I talked to my local import shop and they said that spoon dose not make a rear strut tower for our cars because they don't have civic coups in the EK, Did any of you have a problem putting it in?
Also I have the progress rear sway bar and it came with a lower tie bar but I thought it didn't look like it was very strong but now Im hearing that you have to put it on for the sway bar to work right is that true?
Also I have the progress rear sway bar and it came with a lower tie bar but I thought it didn't look like it was very strong but now Im hearing that you have to put it on for the sway bar to work right is that true?
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I have a question for anyone that has the spoon rear strut towers. I talked to my local import shop and they said that spoon dose not make a rear strut tower for our cars
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Rep Power: 0 I have the progress rear sway bar and it came with a lower tie bar but I thought it didn't look like it was very strong but now Im hearing that you have to put it on for the sway bar to work right is that true?
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Rep Power: 0 Nuespeed, the bars connect directly to the suspension screws on either side of the engine bay, unlike all those others that the strut bars are held to the brackets, that tie the unit to the suspension, by screws.
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I have the progress rear sway bar and it came with a lower tie bar but I thought it didn't look like it was very strong but now Im hearing that you have to put it on for the sway bar to work right is that true?
I have the progress rear sway bar and it came with a lower tie bar but I thought it didn't look like it was very strong but now Im hearing that you have to put it on for the sway bar to work right is that true?
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Originally posted by CapYoda
I dont think neuspeed is so bad.
if you're going to ask about strut bars... and I give u another perspective on it.. u dont have to believe me. lol.
no, trust me.. they are not that important as the other things mentioned. the difference between good and bad tires.. well be felt much more than some front upper strut bar.
in either case they do stiffen the chassis up, if you buy the working ones.
but I'm just saying, spending more than $100 on a bar is kinda eh.
cuz if there's other things you can do first.. u probably should have done it.
I've got like 4 bars on my car right now (not including the sways) but I think a good set of tires would have done more than these have. or a simpe drop with a spring and paired with some stiffer shocks.
I dont think neuspeed is so bad.
if you're going to ask about strut bars... and I give u another perspective on it.. u dont have to believe me. lol.
no, trust me.. they are not that important as the other things mentioned. the difference between good and bad tires.. well be felt much more than some front upper strut bar.
in either case they do stiffen the chassis up, if you buy the working ones.
but I'm just saying, spending more than $100 on a bar is kinda eh.
cuz if there's other things you can do first.. u probably should have done it.
I've got like 4 bars on my car right now (not including the sways) but I think a good set of tires would have done more than these have. or a simpe drop with a spring and paired with some stiffer shocks.
With that being said, your chance of figuring out if a strut bar works depends on the height of your car. The problem is a lot of people expect to feel a strut bar work for them whenever they turn the car, then they complain they kinda feel it or don't feel it at all when a strut bar cannot reduce spring compression. This is better known as body roll.
The only supplemental device that reduces spring compression is sway bars which also works better depending on your suspension's spring rate or ride height.
Strut bars just reduce any type of body flex (not roll) the car can endure, but if there's too much body roll you won't notice a thing.
Hope this helps.
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