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Old Apr 18, 2003
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Question How does a B20 have so many available parts but it is a Honda CR-V engine

How does a B20 have so many available parts but it is a Honda CR-V engine which u never see hopped up reply to that
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First off the motor is a DOHC and has been out for awhile. Second off it is a motor that is swapped into civics.
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that is what i am saying stupid
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Than what the hell are you asking? Are you wanting to know why you don't see "hopped up" CRVs? Or are you asking about a civic with a B20 swapped "hopped up?" You need to be more specific before being an ***.
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If your wanting to know why its in the CRV, its because it has more torque. For the 4x4 and towing.
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thanx sorry bout' the comment dawg
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B20 block + ANY DOHC VTEC HEAD = monster frankinstien engine with good horsepower and torque to boot.

monster frank b-series engine + all available parts for b series = hype

d-series motor + aftermarket parts = small gains


need i say more?
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Originally posted by cambo
B20 block + ANY DOHC VTEC HEAD = monster frankinstien engine with good horsepower and torque to boot.

monster frank b-series engine + all available parts for b series = hype

d-series motor + aftermarket parts = small gains


need i say more?
yea you have no idea what you are talking about please stop posting moronic statments like that above.
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Originally posted by SuperNegro
yea you have no idea what you are talking about please stop posting moronic statments like that above.
cambo does know what he is talking about... how is that statment moronic?

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hey hey hey guys cool out, relax....its still just a honda
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hey hey hey guys cool out, relax....its still just a honda
BOOYAH! you hit it on the dot!
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For one two D series engines around here are faster then a vast majorty of B series H series, k series and any other honda engine. One is runing 10.98's and the other 11.99's both street cars. Plus countless others.

Bisi ran 10.7's on a carbed D15

Next you dont need a LS crank or B20 block to go fast to say that thier mods are hype is pure B.S.

stock bottom end B18's have put out 200whp+ with just ITR/CTR cams with the stock 81mm bore and 87.2mm stroke

Friends GSR Hatch with nitrous went 11's also the list goes on and on so thats why his statement is moronic to say the least.
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woaaa...this sure got out of hand quickly

question, is there a reason for your question about the CRV engine aftermarket support or what??? cause I don't get the arguement, besides, this has been beaten to death already (the whole mighty B series legacy -vs- the new D series restrictions and K series and in the end, our civics are still slow )
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Originally posted by Civic2k1racer
cambo does know what he is talking about... how is that statment moronic?
finally...someone who does have a clue.

the question was why does the B20 have aftermarket support?
the answer = my post

SuperNegro = fool.

Next you dont need a LS crank or B20 block to go fast to say that thier mods are hype is pure B.S.
ur an idiot. no one said you HAD to have either one. Street-wise, b series motors will beat most d series motors. Open up a catalog and i can gaurentee you that there will be more parts available for the b-series. Let me think this a bit....cheap parts galore for any b series + more displacement from a 2 liter b block (B20) = all the hype. Hell...5.0 liter mustangs get a lot of there power purely from displacement over other engines.

how is that statement BS? i'd say you got more BS in your head than all the domestic rice *** e-thugs.

Bisi ran 10.7's on a carbed D15
carbed D15 how many CARBED D15s do people see one the street anyways? heck, i dont see ANY around me. I've worked on all kinds of cars around my area...from turboed eclipse...to 5th gen civics....to 85 mazdas....to 2000 accords....to Integras....to even domestic (ford, chevys, chryslers....hell, i'm work on a 93 chrysler town and country mini-van). I know most, if not all the fastest cars in my area, including a R34 skyline GTR. NO D15s HERE! NONE! NADA!

stock bottom end B18's have put out 200whp+ with just ITR/CTR cams with the stock 81mm bore and 87.2mm stroke
lets see... B18C5 (ITR) is 195 HP STOCK. Let me break this down for you. B18C5 is the ITR motor, so 195 > 200. nope. definately not. Its ALREADY got ITR cams, so no point for you. B18C1 (GSR) has 170 HP, adding just ITR cams wont give it close to 30 HP. why do i say that? I dont see it happenening. ITR cams allow a B18 engine more agressive intake and exhaust duration, but no where enough to allow 30 HP gains. B18B1 (LS/GS/RS) motor is 142 HP. 60 HP gain with JUST ITR cams...once again...no.

Friends GSR Hatch with nitrous went 11's also the list goes on and on so thats why his statement is moronic to say the least.
GSR engine is a B18C1, which is 170 HP. add nitrous (at least a 50 shot) you got urself up to 220 HP, so he probably has a larger shot. Plus a light body, like a hatch...which is why people chose hatches, and you got a decently fast honda. 11s with just those mods? nope, dont think so. and if it did...lets see a time slip, pictures/video, and a mod list. then i'll eat my words, until then...YOU ARE THE MORONIC FOOL.


btw...that 93 chrysler town and country mini-van is in the process of being rebuilt and turbocharged. i've replaced the tranny with a stronger unit. custom intake. custom exhaust. its all gonna be custom done. not to mention its gonna be one hell of a sleeper. it currently has only the custom intake and nitrous and upgraded tranny...its hung, if not beaten,any car its raced so far.

Let me recap this.
cheap parts galore for any b series + more displacement from a 2 liter b block (B20) = all the hype.
think all the people who have built B18s, B17s (yes B17, 92-93 GSR engine), and B16s. people who have built b16s want a b18 because more displacement allows higher HP numbers. Built B18s are being replaced with built B20s. B20 is the highest STOCK displacement bottom end...bore it out to 2.1 liters or more and you got more HP potential. THATS THE HYPE of the B20 engine, aka the CR-V enigne.

this whole post has been in terms of N/A engines. I rest my case.
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Originally posted by cambo

lets see... B18C5 (ITR) is 195 HP STOCK. Let me break this down for you. B18C5 is the ITR motor, so 195 > 200. nope. definately not. Its ALREADY got ITR cams, so no point for you. B18C1 (GSR) has 170 HP, adding just ITR cams wont give it close to 30 HP. why do i say that? I dont see it happenening. ITR cams allow a B18 engine more agressive intake and exhaust duration, but no where enough to allow 30 HP gains. B18B1 (LS/GS/RS) motor is 142 HP. 60 HP gain with JUST ITR cams...once again...no.


You have no clue, People have made over 200whp with ITR cams, Headwork, Headers, Exhaust, Pistons and ECU upgrades. Next with the stock bottom end and Spoon Cams no head work the same has been acomplished with JDM ITR headers and The like.

And you cant put ITR cams in a LS so why even add that in there?

If you are talking interms of a head swap VTEC heads on B20 bottom ends with raised compression can reach 200whp on ITR or CTR cams very easily how do i know? ive seen them

So you theroy is just out the window.

http://www.importreview.com/dyno/1.8/group2/ITR2.html

this one is actually a LS VTEC
http://www.importreview.com/dyno/1.8...2/LSVtec2.html

ITR cams in a GSR with larger bore
http://www.importreview.com/dyno/1.8/group2/GSR1.html

GSR engine is a B18C1, which is 170 HP. add nitrous (at least a 50 shot) you got urself up to 220 HP, so he probably has a larger shot. Plus a light body, like a hatch...which is why people chose hatches, and you got a decently fast honda. 11s with just those mods? nope, dont think so. and if it did...lets see a time slip, pictures/video, and a mod list. then i'll eat my words, until then
He was running a stock bottom end, I/H/E and fuel upgrades and Clutch with 120shot then he went to 150

If you really want to see cars running fast without major mods look at inline pros work stock bottom end B series engines running up to 25psi yes you heard right STOCK bottom ends.


Let me recap this.
cheap parts galore for any b series + more displacement from a 2 liter b block (B20) = all the hype.
think all the people who have built B18s, B17s (yes B17, 92-93 GSR engine), and B16s. people who have built b16s want a b18 because more displacement allows higher HP numbers. Built B18s are being replaced with built B20s. B20 is the highest STOCK displacement bottom end...bore it out to 2.1 liters or more and you got more HP potential. THATS THE HYPE of the B20 engine, aka the CR-V enigne.
Actually no Ericks racing actually runs a GSR block with a stock GSR crank and New Sleeves and you know what he ran 10.07 in a FWD N/A Honda with the dual plenium GSR intake manifold

Lisa Kubo Ran a destroked motor for years in her Hatchback

Skunk2 ran a GSR

even L'natural with the stroked H22 isnt running faster then ericks so something must be going right.

And the hype over B20 was over years ago. only people still hyped on them are people new to the scene and most have gone past it, if you want the extra displacement you resleeve your block and keep your stock crank if you really want the LS/B20 crank you can swap them into a VTEC block since it all bolts up.


As for never seeing a carbed honda come out to cali there are more then a few along with a large number of cars running ITB's
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My car has an aftermarket exhaust and i run 5's! so there. jk. you guys make me laugh... ::laff::
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lol same here.. is it me or does cambo always get these things with people on the form. he seems to be getting fought with i think 2 times in like 2 days. not saying that he doesnt know what hes talking about because he does. i like the van i have raced in it b4 its crazy :-P but sayign most of that labor time was put in by me with his supervison.
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hehehe i beat a civic btw in it=. it was really funny i beat him by like 3 car lengths i think it was a b16 civic not sure tho i didnt wanna turn my head back and then crash
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Originally posted by SuperNegro
You have no clue, People have made over 200whp with ITR cams, Headwork, Headers, Exhaust, Pistons and ECU upgrades. Next with the stock bottom end and Spoon Cams no head work the same has been acomplished with JDM ITR headers and The like.

And you cant put ITR cams in a LS so why even add that in there?

If you are talking interms of a head swap VTEC heads on B20 bottom ends with raised compression can reach 200whp on ITR or CTR cams very easily how do i know? ive seen them

So you theroy is just out the window.

http://www.importreview.com/dyno/1.8/group2/ITR2.html

this one is actually a LS VTEC
http://www.importreview.com/dyno/1.8...2/LSVtec2.html

ITR cams in a GSR with larger bore
http://www.importreview.com/dyno/1.8/group2/GSR1.html



He was running a stock bottom end, I/H/E and fuel upgrades and Clutch with 120shot then he went to 150

If you really want to see cars running fast without major mods look at inline pros work stock bottom end B series engines running up to 25psi yes you heard right STOCK bottom ends.




Actually no Ericks racing actually runs a GSR block with a stock GSR crank and New Sleeves and you know what he ran 10.07 in a FWD N/A Honda with the dual plenium GSR intake manifold

Lisa Kubo Ran a destroked motor for years in her Hatchback

Skunk2 ran a GSR

even L'natural with the stroked H22 isnt running faster then ericks so something must be going right.

And the hype over B20 was over years ago. only people still hyped on them are people new to the scene and most have gone past it, if you want the extra displacement you resleeve your block and keep your stock crank if you really want the LS/B20 crank you can swap them into a VTEC block since it all bolts up.


As for never seeing a carbed honda come out to cali there are more then a few along with a large number of cars running ITB's
ok...here it is..this guy is NOT A PRO racer. i'm talking about the average street tuner. How many AVERAGE street tuners have you seen running 11s in their civic with d-series motors. and the fact still remains that he asked what the hype about B20s were. i answered it so thats that.
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I really like b series cause it is dual cam but i didn't know that d series engines could make that much
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