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Old Apr 14, 2003
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ot:McDonalds!! What to do???

I went through McDonalds drive thru last night at 2:30am....I was not drunk!! The drive thru lane is the worst so i went around through the parking lot and got in the drive thru line the other way. As i drove through the parking lot what looked like gravel wasnt and it was actually a big pothole...It was like 2 ft wide and like 1/2 a ft deep. i swear if u put a basketball in the hole you wouldnt be able to see it. Needless to say my car smacked down hard in it. No damage to my car but there are 2 gouges in my back bumper underneath. The pot HOLE wasnt marked and doesnt even look like a pothole... Do u think i can complain to McDOnalds and tell them that the scratches are from driving through the pothole???
I think a pothole that big and wide should be marked?
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i would seriously complain and i would try and make them get me a new back bumper
it's good to hear that you didn't *** ne thing else up though....
but i would try talk to the manager or someone there to get a new bumper....
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sue them!
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that sux, are there any laws about marking large potholes?
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talk to the manager see what he says. if the matter does not settle, file a small claims and take it to court. becuase this is clearly neglegence that mc donalds could avoid. i would take pics of t he pot hole, tkae pics of the damage... then seriously take this to court.
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hehe.... civil law class
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Complain, you'll have no case sueing them because you are travelling in PRIVATE PROPERTY. Now on public roads, the public works are suppose to mark them, but in this scenerior, just bug the manager.
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Originally posted by AzimuthX
Complain, you'll have no case sueing them because you are travelling in PRIVATE PROPERTY. Now on public roads, the public works are suppose to mark them, but in this scenerior, just bug the manager.
now i thought because it was private property they were responsible for keeping it safe if the public uses it. like an icey walk way outside a house on private property, it is there for the people to use but the owner could be sued if someone fell because they didnt clear it. if that is the case, then he would do great in court.

but anyway, try complaining first.
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Actually the sidewalk is not yours, its government property. Its their responsibility to get it safe... theres no law on making sure private property are safe, its like saying that you must salt your driveway so that someone can walk through it.

btw, SHE
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no, but let's say a person slips and falls in front of your house or own ur driveway (private property)
i heard they can sue you...so best to buy home insurance!!
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its called criminal negligence.... yes if someone slips in front of ur house they can sue you..
"public place" means where public has access to..
like a building it may be owned by a private company it is still called "public" ...cause public has access.......
go check the criminal code........
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Originally posted by babychai
no, but let's say a person slips and falls in front of your house or own ur driveway (private property)
i heard they can sue you...so best to buy home insurance!!
yeah if you have walkway in front of your home which you don't babychai !! lo worry ...
but also for stairs ... if you have handle bar on the side and the person slips ... he can't sue you as well ...
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Originally posted by SwtAzniLLusion
its called criminal negligence.... yes if someone slips in front of ur house they can sue you..
"public place" means where public has access to..
like a building it may be owned by a private company it is still called "public" ...cause public has access.......
go check the criminal code........
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I can also sue that person by entering my private property ??
no ??
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just entering?
a building is different
a house is different

details sunapollo
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Yea but don't you have to warn people?

Who wants to make ice in a corner of McDonalds and who wants to volunteer to slip and fall? Remmeber I get half of the settlement!
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Originally posted by SwtAzniLLusion
just entering?
a building is different
a house is different

details sunapollo
I was refering to house ... like my driveway ...
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what i think....
if someone slips on ur driveway..they can sue you......
you might wanna charge them for trespassing..
but that's going into bylaws...n i don't know bylaws..i'll tell u when i learn that next yr
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yeah, my mom was happy that we didn't have a sidewalk...
wait sunapollo, u don't have one either...*thumbs up* *yells zeeeeeeen star*

so oldskool, you should definitely try the mcd's manager...
potholes are evil...
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Originally posted by SwtAzniLLusion
what i think....
if someone slips on ur driveway..they can sue you......
you might wanna charge them for trespassing..
but that's going into bylaws...n i don't know bylaws..i'll tell u when i learn that next yr
they can sue me ??
my driveway doesnt have sidewalk tho ...
the other side does ...

I don't think they can sue me right ?
logically ....
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ok ok... relax baby chai!!!!
... i wonder why houses dont have side walks???
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Sidewalk - You sue the government. You do not own the sidewalk, that is why it is cheaper to have sidewalk on your side of property. Ya I agree, no sidewalks kickass, easy parking (well not in my case, I must reverse park and park right right at the edge of the corner, geeze)
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I don't think u're going to sue mcdonalds. Most likely you gotta check who's property it was. McDonalds or the owner of the mall/plaza.

But go to McDonalds manager so he can note the problem.

If you got alot of time on your hand. Go to small claims court.
You'll most likely win. BUT the defendant can also argue that your car was too low etc etc. lol
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Originally posted by AzimuthX
Sidewalk - You sue the government. You do not own the sidewalk, that is why it is cheaper to have sidewalk on your side of property. Ya I agree, no sidewalks kickass, easy parking (well not in my case, I must reverse park and park right right at the edge of the corner, geeze)
yes, the gov't owns the sidewalk but the house owners have to ensure it is safe for the public to use. ie: ice, snow must be cleared.

you can sue someon if you pk on their dirve way or path way to their door. but then u can be sued for tresspassing (like stw said) ...

you can sue mcdaees for the pot hole. they may counterclaim and say your car is lowered and stuff .. but that's not likely going to have an effect. so i say u sue like a bitch!!!

i have it all in my criminal code book if you guys still have anymore questions ... or swt can also ur questions .... i'm sure she has a copy of the criminal code too .. hahaha ...
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first of all you shouldn't have been going to nasty mc donalds.
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Originally posted by sg2kca
first of all you shouldn't have been going to nasty mc donalds.
I actually I have to agree
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Originally posted by bumdup
yes, the gov't owns the sidewalk but the house owners have to ensure it is safe for the public to use. ie: ice, snow must be cleared.

you can sue someon if you pk on their dirve way or path way to their door. but then u can be sued for tresspassing (like stw said) ...

you can sue mcdaees for the pot hole. they may counterclaim and say your car is lowered and stuff .. but that's not likely going to have an effect. so i say u sue like a bitch!!!

i have it all in my criminal code book if you guys still have anymore questions ... or swt can also ur questions .... i'm sure she has a copy of the criminal code too .. hahaha ...
falling on the sidewalk . the owner can be sued but they can't sue you for trespassing cuz you were walking on the side walk.
i'm 100% sure cuz i did a case study on it before.

The law states a person has the responsibility of shoveling the sidewalk 1 hour after the snowfalls and use salt when snow is going to fall over night. Someone falls. u're screwed.
the person can get between 150k - 200k, depending on how good the lawyer is.

The pothole. she really gotta check who's property it is. If u bring McDonalds to court and they say "it wasn't their property where the incident occured". YOu'll just look like a jack *** standing in front of the judge.
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thanks man. Subways the way to go!!!!!
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Originally posted by scsGrumPyDriveR
falling on the sidewalk . the owner can be sued but they can't sue you for trespassing cuz you were walking on the side walk.
i'm 100% sure cuz i did a case study on it before.

The law states a person has the responsibility of shoveling the sidewalk 1 hour after the snowfalls and use salt when snow is going to fall over night. Someone falls. u're screwed.
the person can get between 150k - 200k, depending on how good the lawyer is.

The pothole. she really gotta check who's property it is. If u bring McDonalds to court and they say "it wasn't their property where the incident occured". YOu'll just look like a jack *** standing in front of the judge.
"YOu'll just look like a jack *** standing in front of the judge."
HAHHAHA ... that'd be funny. ya, as i said earlier ... talk to the manager first.

hahha ... and yes, i know you can walk on the sidewalks!! ... it's not like i just got off the boat from china you know ??!.... haha ... i was talking about walk way. as in the walk way from your drive way to your front door.
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bumdup..our tuition paid off eh
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LoL' whos up for some fun. When its cold enough for ice to form, dump a bucket of cold water, than next evening, its falling time! I'd fall (if it can be healed) for 150000!
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