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Old Mar 16, 2003
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What size/type tires should I buy?

I just bought a set of ADR Syntax 17x7 with a +40 offset for my 2K1 Civic. The car is not lowered. What size and type of tires should I buy? Anyone have any favorites or suggestions? I don't want to spend a fortune but I want something good that will last.
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I would suggest a 215/45-17 tire, as far as brands go you will get a million answers. Personally I would go with a tire that has a high tread wear and temperature rating so it will last longer. Nitto NT-555's are very good as well as Toyo T1-S, and there are many others to choose from too in that size range. Check out the Tire Rack for some good info on which ones to choose.
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i know the san jose area street are pretty wack but u would be fine with 205/40/17
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id go with the 40 instead of 45. i had 45's on my 17's and they seemed too thick for me
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215/45 were nice on my 17's..... looked a little thick..... but than.... when it came to potholes...... those tires saved my rims...
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I just wrote a brilliant response to your questions, but I wasn't logged in to the forum

Short answer: If you are not planning to lower your car for a while, go with the 215/45 so the gap between tire & fender won't be so noticable.

Not many people are helping you on the brands because your question is too wide open. As 666 has already said, go to www.tirerack.com or www.discounttiredirect.com and search for the size you want.

You can then narrow down your choices to just 2 or 3, then come back and ask us again
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i wouldn't recommend the toyo proxes fz-4's. i am running them and they are actually really loud after 1/2 the treads gone. but they will help the 'vic hang a corner though.
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run a 45 series tire....40 series are sometime too thin and may bend a rim
pending on how and where you drive....i have learned my lesson...but if you go 18" go with a 40 just cause on an 18" wheel 35 is a bit small too.
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hoped i help nathan
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Thanks everyone!
Okay I decided to go with the 215/45-17. A lot of ppl I know have been suggesting Kumho Ecsta 712. I have been searching around for good prices and the best price I was able to find was $620 which is including the four tires, mounting, balancing, alignment, and wheel locks. How does this sound to everyone?
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those tires suck, trust me, they have no grip whats so ever compared to alot of tires... you should get some 215/40 tires.
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Originally posted by BigD
Thanks everyone!
Okay I decided to go with the 215/45-17. A lot of ppl I know have been suggesting Kumho Ecsta 712. I have been searching around for good prices and the best price I was able to find was $620 which is including the four tires, mounting, balancing, alignment, and wheel locks. How does this sound to everyone?
I guess that's a good price considering you're not just getting the tires alone.

40 series will get owned by a pothole for sure. 40 series also is much louder than a 45.
215-45 is hard to go with if your car is really low (mostly because it's wide). It'll rub in the rear, but I'm also considering this size too and shaving the rear fenders.
215-45 doesn't affect your speedometer as negatively as a 40 series tire would.
205-40 sucks IMO. Though it's relatively easy to find but 205 isn't wide enough if you're looking for performance. And... it makes the side-view of the entire wheel with the tire look sooooooooooooooooo small. Well, actually it's smaller than your stock 185-65-15. (Probably the reason why lots of people think 17s look so small.)
205-45 is almost impossible to find. It's not wide enough but the profile is still cool for bad roads.
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Since your car ain't lowered I say the best tire would be a Yokohama Y2K only available at discount tire co or america's tire co. and yes, get a 215/40 or 45 for a softer ride
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Originally posted by BigD
Thanks everyone!
Okay I decided to go with the 215/45-17. A lot of ppl I know have been suggesting Kumho Ecsta 712. I have been searching around for good prices and the best price I was able to find was $620 which is including the four tires, mounting, balancing, alignment, and wheel locks. How does this sound to everyone?
Good choice on the size. Since you aren't lowered it should fill up your fenderwell better + it will give you a little more sidewall to protect the rim and keep your speedometer error to a minimum. The Ecsta 712 is a good tire for the money (maybe they're crap when worn out, but I can only tell you how they work with good tread--we ran a set on some 17" Konigs but sold them after 10K miles).

If you get wheel locks AND an alignment thrown in for that price, it sounds OK

Those Yokohama AVS ES100's are worth looking at if you aren't completely sold on the Kumho's
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Old Mar 19, 2003
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Nooo, don't get kumho. I finally realized why everybody doesn't like them. I haven't even had my tires on a year and the tread is worn down a hella lot. As soon as I get out for this semester I'm gonna have to get new tires. Overall I liked my Kumho's but they wear out quick if you do a lot of driving on the interstate.
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I just got new 17" konigs and I got Khumo 712s 215/45-17 tires. They look great, and feel great. These tires would keep your odometer closests to the original settings. Anything smaller would throw it off alot more.
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How about Firehawk SZ50 EP? Would that be better to go with then the Kuhmos? I don't really need something Z-rated, but I do want something that will last. What about Yokohama ES100? Is there anything good I can get at Costco?
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I would go with 205-40-17
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is the 215/45/17 wider then stock? i hate how skinny the stock ones look even lowered
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Originally posted by BigD
How about Firehawk SZ50 EP? Would that be better to go with then the Kuhmos? I don't really need something Z-rated, but I do want something that will last. What about Yokohama ES100? Is there anything good I can get at Costco?
I know you want a second opinion, but I'll just have to add that although they're gonna be like $150 a piece, they are some of the best tires on the market and are quite possibly the longest lasting performance tire you'll find that's Z-rated. That's the tire I'm considering.

is the 215/45/17 wider then stock? i hate how skinny the stock ones look even lowered
215 is FAR wider than stock 185. If you want a wider 15, then replace the stock one with a 195 or 205. Take the fatness out the tire's side-view and bring the profile down to 60 or 55 (I don't recommend 50 unless you want your 15 looking like a 17 or 18 inch mini-wheel.

But if you mean 215-45-17 vs. 185-65-15 in terms of say from the side-view, yes the 215-45 is just a LITTLE bigger in diameter. Just go to the tire calculator page and compare sizes. See for yourself. If it says the speedometer reads it too fast, that means the tire is smaller. If it's bigger, then it's the opposite.

You probably won't find a size that matches the stock speedo perfectly for a 17. I was only able to find out the best sizes that don't affect the speedometer so much are 205/45 (a lil' smaller so faster speedometer) or 215/45 (a lil' bigger so slower speedometer).

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Originally posted by BigD
What about Yokohama ES100?
I'd probably choose that tire over the Kumhos. They're much quieter. A lil' bit more expensive by say $10-$15 a tire. Many people seem to favor them over the Kumhos in terms of traction, especially for wet weather. Tire wear is okay but not far off from where Kumho is.

A quiet performance tire is my friend.

And a 205 tire could fit on a 15 inch rim... meaning for your 17 inch rim, it'll be equivalent to a puny 185 on your stock rim. Wider is bettAr.

And I see you live in Florida. Florida must have some roads smooth as glass.

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Bro, I live in San Jose, the roads out here suck. I am going to go with the 215/45-17. After researching more I think I am going to go with the Yokohama ES100. I have got a guy in San Mateo who will mount, balance, align, and wheellock for $630 total. How does that sound?
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One more thing, do I really need to get an alignment done after I mount these?
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Well I was able to negotiate the price at America's Tire Company down to 488 for the tires mounted and balanced. Then I got them to throw in wheel locks to make it a total of 500 out the door. so if anyone needs some tires then that is the best price I found. Now I just have to find a cheap place for alignment. Thank you everyone for your inputs and assistance.
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Thabnks for the info on tire size. BUT does a 215/45/17 look wider from the rear then a stock tire. I am plannig on runnig 215/45/17 on a ser of racing hart c5's and i want the tire to be wider then stock. If any bodys got some pics of there set up with this size tire would like to see , from the back of course thanks
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Originally posted by BigD
Well I was able to negotiate the price at America's Tire Company down to 488 for the tires mounted and balanced. Then I got them to throw in wheel locks to make it a total of 500 out the door. so if anyone needs some tires then that is the best price I found. Now I just have to find a cheap place for alignment. Thank you everyone for your inputs and assistance.
ATC is the best! I wouldn't trust anyone else with my tires, but then again, I work for them. You got a good deal man.
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Originally posted by BigD
One more thing, do I really need to get an alignment done after I mount these?
No, your car is still prettynew, unless you banged it up against a curb before, but other than that you don't need it. If you're feeling a pull right now it might be uneven wear of your tires, is your car dropped? More frequent rotations and air checks will help you with that problem. BTW, ATC gives free rotations and air checks I'm sure you know, so give them a try and see how it goes.
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kuhmos arent a bad choice, im rollin on 205/40-17. they've been goin for 15000 miles, tread wise, they doin good. but when it comes to potholes, bubbles up easily. i think 40s are too small, makes ur rims look small too.
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Originally posted by BigD
Bro, I live in San Jose, the roads out here suck.
Sorry I was referring to the guy who recommended 205-40-17 who lives in Florida. (Should've quoted him.) I know where you're from. It's too bad you can't come to the meet tomorrow.

The price you're looking at sounds good to me. ****, for $600, I'm looking at just the tires ALONE for the Firehawks!

As for getting an alignment I say you SHOULD. I agree with the guy saying you shouldn't because your car is still new, HOWEVER - every time you lift a car off the ground whether changing fluids in your car (DIY), mounting rims, etc. the alignment gets ruined. So I suggest this... get an alignment only if you're completely sure you're not gonna lift your car off the ground for a while. Otherwise, why throw about $60-$70 after wanting/needing to raise it off the ground again? If you're gonna mod your suspension any time soon, don't do it. Otherwise, do it.
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I am an aprrentice tech for honda went threw uti auto program etc. and that thing about allignment every time you lift your car is absord. I work on cars all day and if we had to reallign them every time we lift them then we and the customers would be out of money. I say if you put your rims on and drive it and it feels like it puls or wobbles or acts different then before align it if doesn't forget about it.
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