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I just off the phone with a shop here in Montreal. They've tuned a 2k1 Si Coupe to produce 215HP at the wheels with a 50shot of nitrous, Custom Pistons, new cams, headwork, 3 angle valve job using oversized valves. New TB.. All this for $4100CAD.

Doing the same to my DX Compression ratio would be increased to 11.2:1 and they say I should run about 145HP at the wheels without Nitrous (175BHP)

I need $$$

The civic they did the work on was Martin from DPB Performance in Lasalle. he runs a low-mid 14 1/4mile. 14.31 was his best..Muahaha..

 
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That's a lot of money to be spending just for 215 horsepower...sheesh...use it as a downpayment on a fixer-upper and build yourself a real sports car if you want to spend that much money.

 
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thats $4100 CANADIAN dollars
how much is that in the US??? sounds pretty tight

 
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it's only about $2800US. and I wouldn't have 215..only about 190-200 with Nitrous..

 
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for 4.1k cad u can get a musclecar to lift its front wheels

 
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$2800US can get a muscle cars front wheels off the ground.. Yeah...a good hydraulic lift runs for about that [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]

 
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hey mohawk....does this shop sell it as a package???

 
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Nope..it's all custom work. I'm friends with the owners wifes brother so I'm getting good prices on labour and lower mark-ups on parts. He said it would run about $5500 normally.. This shop has also done a K20 into a 7th gen swap. But it was the from a totalled SiR..they had the whole car so the crossmember, axles, wiring ECU was all there..but the cars having some problems which they are contiung to work on...

 
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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Hey buddy[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/IMG]

 
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Actually, that's not that much money for that much horsepower. Probably the best horsepower to money rating I've seen yet. Do you own a 7th gen civic? Where's the enthusiasm? [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG]

 
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yeah, thats pretty good deal for that hp, but i just dont like nawsssss

 
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Just compare it to the Gude head package, then add Custom Pistons and ECU programming. I'm also gonna buy the HP Headers with high flow cat and )2 simulator..price wise..it's pretty cheap.. Gude head $1600US, Nitrous kit installed $500US. Custom forgeD pistons..???...but all that for $2800US...Not too shabby at all.. Plus the HP headers

 
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So how come gude hasn't advertised the civic head package? I want to know how much power is gained from this also. The custom pistons, what do they do to them???

 
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He should run better than 14.3 for sure if hes got 215hp at the wheels.... a stock Si(EX) with nitrous will do the 1/4 mile in 14.6...
If it was a 14.3 w/o nitrous then I'd be impressed. Also please remember that the difference between an LX/DX and an Si on a dyno is 5 hp maximum... i've seen numbers as low as 2hp. Either way the difference is NOTHING

K-lx

 
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Gude claims a 30% increase..I'm not getting the Gude head..but a custom job...the Pistons decrease weight..increase compression, take much more heat so Nitrous can safely be used..

 
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14.3 is his best time.. This guys also has a pair of 15" MA Audio subs 4 extra batteries a full MDF trunk, and a 4000Wrms MA audio amp..his cars about 4-500Lbs heavier than stock

 
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Your'e right, bro [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/IMG] , I've just been so frustrated lately because of the lack of power these cars have. I'll be absolutely honest, I did not want a Civic when I first went to the dealership. My father said he was willing to help me a little with a downpayment on a new car, but it had to be a car that he would agree with. He refused to help me get anything over $20,000 because he said I didn't need that kind of debt while I was in college. I was really wanting to purchase a Pontiac TransAm or a Chevrolet Camaro Z28, but they were just out of my price range and he added in that he would not help me with the purchase of a used vehicle either, lol. I really wanted a car that had excellent performance because I've owned some pretty fast vehicles prior to my Civic and I had done some research and found that Honda vehicles had a lot of aftermarket support and were apparently very easy to modify. I bought the Civic and find out a few months later that there aren't many helpful aftermarket products for the tiny 1.8L engine squeezed into the tiny little engine bay. My GMC pickup truck can run the quarter mile in 12 seconds and I would be quite joyful if I could get my Civic to run the quarter mile in at least 13 seconds (WITHOUT nitrous!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hate that crap...long story). I was even more overjoyed just recently when I found out that these tiny engines couldn't be boosted much with a turbo either. My response? Ohhhh, greaaaaaaaat. I would be a LITTLE more positive if I knew there was a little more space up front to put in a larger engine, but these Civics have such a limited amount of space in the engine bay. I wish some manufacturers of high performance aftermarket products would realize how much money they could make off of 2001+ Civic owners. For now, these Civics are embarassingly slow.

 
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This looks like a great deal to me 2800 isnt that much.

 
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sounds good man!!
mad props for the effort!!!
DO IT UP!!

 
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Yeah where's the enthiusiasm?!! LoL Mohawk..i hope it works out for you. Keep us posted man. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/IMG]

 
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It's gonna be awhile.. I just bought an engagement ring for my Fiancee to amke things 100% official..I still have to fix the damage on my car.. it may be awhile...but I'm getting this done for sure..eventually [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]

 
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I've posted several times about a shop that will give you the "D17 stage 2 package" for $3700. This includes and port/polish. 3 angle valve job, and lightening balancing of everything! They will blueprint and balance the whole thing. Consider it an overhaul on your motor... with everything from balanced and lightened pistons- to thicker valve sleeves. They also have the capability to make a stroker kit for our cars.. all they have to do is forge the rods needed. I personally recommend them from experience with past cars. Their website is www.Honda-Performance.com

 
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sounds good for a 7th gen. but its still a lot of money for that kinda hp. I mean, 2,800 for 145hp? how much more do you need to spend for that 50 shot?

I wonder how long will we have to wait for performance and value to be on the same level...

Logan, if you wanted a civic that can be mod, u bought too new of a civic... the previous gen had like 10 times the amount of aftermarket than this generation... and its definitely more cost effective too.

I mean, yesterday I just drove a 95 ex pumping out well over 210 whp... running a greddy turbo at 11.5 psi... the car was easily 14 sec on the crappy stock firestone tires he had... and with better tires, I'm sure it'll be a 13 sec easily. it cost him like $2,400 in all...

makes me kinda jealous.

course, his mileage was like 12 mpg. lol.

 
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the price includes the Nitrous kit..Spending $1000 for a body kit painted and installed is more redculous as it has no use [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]. it's not that bad to have somethign that will run with B16A2's and B18C1's Which Swaps are about $5k CAD into older gen civics...so It's not a bad investment

 
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the whole thing relies on the nitrous - if i was gonna spend that kind of money i wouldnt wanna rely on nitrous to make me fast. boosted deal sounds much better.

 
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It's still about 140-150HP at the wheels..then the shot of Nitrous.. a B16A2 only produces 138 Hories at the wheel...It'd be like drivign an Si with Nitrous..

 
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And still get 30+ MPG with the A/C blowin'? Probably not.

 
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his civic wont do that either. BTW a 5.7L LS1 Corvette can get above 26MPG if driven "lightly".

That sounds like a good option for your 2k1 civic, given the lack of other alternatives, although id say it would be cheaper, and faster to just put in forged pistons and a crank, then jet say an 80 wet. i bet you put down 200 whp.

BTW, how much did you pay for your car?

 
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came to $18K CAD with a 2 year extension on bumper to bumper warranty..

New crank rods and pistons and 80 wet will get me the same as what I'm doing now and a 50shot [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG].. either way about 200 at the wheels with Nitrous..

 
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yes it will, but for half the price.

and WTF is 18K CAD in real money? like 1500 US dollars or what?