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Old Apr 8, 2002
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D series exhast manifold????

I've asked several people, and they all say yes. But I wanted to ask you guys before I go buy something.

Will the exhast manifold from other D series engines fit the D17????

I'm building a custom turbo. I need to find a turbo manifold that will fit my car. Any help will be appreciated.

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im pretty sure that they wont fit unless u drill some new bolt holes sorry newbie
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Do you know for sure.....

It's a D supposed to be a d series head and block...

Just a larger bore and a diffferent cam then the D16.

I only really want answers if you know for a fact either way. Not trying to be pissy or anything....

I've just asked this question 83 too many times.

I need to know for sure. If anyone knows where I could buy a turbo manifold made specifcally for D17 engines let me know too.
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the only way u are getting a turbo manifold is to get one custom made. and the d16 and d17 blocks have different bolt holes for the exhaust.
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Well any good places to get one made.....

Would the make one from scratch or make an adpater plate for a stock manifold?

I need one to mount a T3 to.
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it would probably be a full custom made however they might be able to make an adapter plate. and a t3 might be a little to big to be real effective on our engine. you would have to rev to like 6000 to get it spooled up. Hey PerfectD3 could u help out with this.
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why such a big turbo!? wouldnt u need an external wastage w/ that turbo as well?
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Yeah, go for T25/T28 hybrid. Something like that anyway. Ball bearing too. Um... If the D16's have the same exhaust ports, then filling in the holes and making new ones for the bolts wouldn't be too bad IMO. So the question is, does the D16 block have the same shape and size and position exhaust ports as the D17 block? Anyone know?
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It does. You can either fill in the holes and drill new ones, or make an adapter plate. Structurally speaking, it would be better to fill and drill new holes.

Beware of running high boost levels, at our compression it'll be very easy to detonate and cause a disgustingly large amount of interior damage to the engine. But if you're running 5-8psi, you should be golden. I would try an aftermarket (MSD) ignition that allows you to retard ignition timing to help this, the MSD Digitals can do this automatically. I would also advise for an external wastegate, this givies you the option of running lower compression pistions or boring out engine later and running higher boost levels. Let us know how it turns out, and good luck!
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<< It does. You can either fill in the holes and drill new ones, or make an adapter plate. Structurally speaking, it would be better to fill and drill new holes.

Beware of running high boost levels, at our compression it'll be very easy to detonate and cause a disgustingly large amount of interior damage to the engine. But if you're running 5-8psi, you should be golden. I would try an aftermarket (MSD) ignition that allows you to retard ignition timing to help this, the MSD Digitals can do this automatically. I would also advise for an external wastegate, this givies you the option of running lower compression pistions or boring out engine later and running higher boost levels. Let us know how it turns out, and good luck!
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First off, no MSD product on the market will work on our cars, please do a search on this before you post something he might take seriously. MSD products work on older gen civics, not this one. We are distributorless, and have a coil pack over each plug. MSD will not work on our given application because of this. Please explain how an external wastegate will allow the addition of running lower compression pistons and bore out the engine later one. The wastegate has absolutely nothing to do with this. A properly tuned internal will net the same results as an external. Please make sure to give out accurate information before you post, and not just what you "believe" to be true.

Also, IMO I don't see how a 5th or 6th gen will fit onto our ports. Yes, you could redrill and tapp out the holes, through some block sealer (best for covering up holes on the block even if it isn't a crack) in the old holes, then you would need to port size the new exhaust manifold otherwise you would be choking the engine because of the restrictions placed on the exhasut stream. Just get a custom mainfold, they will run you like 300, and will be set up to bolt right on. Less work = Less cash (if you aren't doing any of it yourself)
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Thanks I was about to post about the wastegate thing.


I do most of the stuff to my cars myself. Mechnics = $. I'm poor.

I'm not quite sure where I could find a shop to make one for me. I was looking at spending around 300 for one, so if I can get one cutom made for that much great!

I could probably make an atapter plate myself for my stock manifold, but it seems to be a little too long. Especially after adding an adapter plate.

I had found this manifold on ebay:


It comes with this downpipe also.



The manifold is 'supposed' to fit any d series engine. It was mounted on d16 in Civic Si. It supposed to fit a standard T3 turbo.

Also I pretty much understand just about everything about turbos, except the sizing. Everyone I know has mentioned T3's.

Couple things don't sound quit right:

<< why such a big turbo!? wouldnt u need an external wastage w/ that turbo as well? >>


T3's have internal wastegates. From what I understand you wouldn't want an external wastegate when the turbo has an internal one.



<< Yeah, go for T25/T28 hybrid. >>



Isn't that turbo larger then a T3?
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<< &lt;&lt; Yeah, go for T25/T28 hybrid. &gt;&gt;

Isn't that turbo larger then a T3?
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Nope, it's smaller. These are Garrett turbochargers and the larger the number the larger the turbo. Oh, I see... The larger the first number the larger the turbo. It's kinda like a T3 is a T3.0 and a T25 is a T2.5 and a T28 is a T2.8 A T25/T28 hybrid means that you take the turbine wheel off of one turbocharger and the compressor wheel off of another and you mate the two.
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RS232- you should email the seller for some pictures of the insides of the manifold. Looks like he used some good materials, nice beefy external welds, yet did he clean the pipes up afterwards? To be honest, it looks like he dis because there si some obvious sanding done to the ports, but want to make sure about the other spots too! BTW, T3 is too large... for now. Unless you have the money to go ahead and upgrade everything, which it doesn't sound like you do, then just stick with the smaller yet faster spooling T25s or T28s. T25 will be the easiest and cheapest to get ahold of.
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I went to school to learn how to work on cars.... So I know pretty much everything involved with turbo's. I just didn't understand the sizing. Everyone had mentioned T3's to me. I'm going to leave the bottom end stock for now. I may see about getting a thinker head gasket to lower the compression. I just hope I won't lose to much tourqe in the process.

If anyone knows any good machine shops that could make a manifold like the one above, let me know. I allready found a T25, so I guess I'll be going with that.

While we're on the subject of turbo's does anyone else here have a custom turbo setup. If so what kind of intercooler did they use? I'm planning on trying to get a conquest tsi intercooler. Just not sure if I will be able to squeeze that thing under my bumber.

BTW thanks for all your help guys. I appreciate it.

 
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