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real world practical?
okay guys i have posted a few a threads here and there about koni yellows and coilovers. I have read many stickies in various forums debating whether shocks and springs are more practical for DD cars than coilovers. When it comes down to it, for my personal needs and DD commutes, shocks and springs would be my best choice....... but this is where it gets frustrating. I am the kind of guy (i know a lot of you are the same way too) that just isnt satisfied with just sticking to the basics(i.e. shocks and springs). I need that added oomph from a coilover kit. Basically everyone I know of or use on their cars are koni suspension kits vs tein coilovers. Can anyone using konis reply about the performance aspect of their handling and overall feeling of the road now. I also have another question. Anyone using tein basic vs the super street dampers please post up detailed replys. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
why not just run ground control coil over sleeves with the yellows? seems to be a great auto-x setup from what i hear and i think a simple yet affective reliable alternative to real coilovers
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What is a "coilover" but a spring with an adjustible perch mounted around a damper?....
Realy, the only true advantage of a pre-built "coilover" over a spring + damper combo is convenience. convenience in that hopefully some one else has allread done all the tuning work for you. Problem is, they are building and selling Street use "coilovers"... which tend to be tuned for the lowest common denominator... AKA average joe driver. So if you are really trying to get the most out of the car, your going to have to re-tune the "coilovers" any ways.
But any ways, I'm currently on Eibach Sport springs and Koni dampers. The car has been preped for and used for autocross and open track, and given the alignment Tires and other suspension tuning the car pretty much does what ever I want it to do, when ever I want it to do it.
dust, dont think of a spring + damper setup as "just sticking to the basics", Because they are really one of the best options for tuning every aspect of the cars handling to your likeing. Catch is, you're the one that gets to do all the tuning.
Realy, the only true advantage of a pre-built "coilover" over a spring + damper combo is convenience. convenience in that hopefully some one else has allread done all the tuning work for you. Problem is, they are building and selling Street use "coilovers"... which tend to be tuned for the lowest common denominator... AKA average joe driver. So if you are really trying to get the most out of the car, your going to have to re-tune the "coilovers" any ways.
But any ways, I'm currently on Eibach Sport springs and Koni dampers. The car has been preped for and used for autocross and open track, and given the alignment Tires and other suspension tuning the car pretty much does what ever I want it to do, when ever I want it to do it.
dust, dont think of a spring + damper setup as "just sticking to the basics", Because they are really one of the best options for tuning every aspect of the cars handling to your likeing. Catch is, you're the one that gets to do all the tuning.
I rode on Koni Yellows and Neuspeed sport springs for over a year, and they dropped the civic nicely and performed well in my opinion. The only problem I had with them is the passenger's side springs didn't ever fully break in because I'm normally the only person in my civic...so the drop from side to side was barely off...a minor point I know, but still. The main thing I had against them is either you or a shop will have to cut the stock front shocks, and basically rebuild them since the Koni yellows are INSERTS, not a complete shock. The shop I went to in Jax, Fla. had done this rebuild one time before on an RSX, but it still took them 6 hours to complete the job! That was six hours of labor I hadn't planned on. All in all, after buying the Konis(not cheap), Neuspeed springs, and the installation/rebuild of the shocks, I could have almost bought the Tein Super Street coilovers that I know have!! Save your money and get a full coilover. The Tein Super Streets are fully height adjustable and I can adjust the dampening on them. In the future, I plan on getting nothing but coilovers for my future project cars. My civic is my daily driver, and the ride is comfortable, not too bouncy or hard over bumps. Of course, if I have the dampening too hard or too soft, the ride feels a little bouncy, but that can be easily changed with a few turns on the Teins. I haven't done this yet, but Tein offers a "EDFC" unit that you can mount somewhere inside your civic that you can adjust the dampening on all four coilovers on the fly! It's about $300 or so, but it would be worth it. Just my 2 cents on the subject, but I would save up for coilovers. I love my Tein Super Streets!!!
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