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Ok I have searched and searched and have found many , and i mean many members that install the emanage on there 7thgen with turbo and have random cylinder misfires with there emanage. Lets use this post to try and figure out why the emanage is misfiring. I myself have spent over 1500 in tunning , swapped coil packs, spark plugs, checked the timming, new belts, bought dezods emanage harness, new o2 sensors, and the only code that i still get is a random cylinder. The code dosnt happen while driving, but only on start up. I can clear the code and it will go away sometimes for 3 days , or as quickly as the next engine startup. The emanage settings that i have is
48c because i have a lx/dx. Im running the rsx injectors with the sf turbo set up and t runs really really good except every now and then it gets a misfire. SO lets figure this out. Dezod your input would be greatly appreciated. Andyman, also I would like your input on the difference between 48c and 48e. After searching the internet also i have noticed that alot of members that use the 48e setting havnt had that many problems besides getting the vtec to work with there ex. Could this be the fix? could 48c be causing the cylinder misfires?
Input guys, Lets get this problem figured out.
Jeff
48c because i have a lx/dx. Im running the rsx injectors with the sf turbo set up and t runs really really good except every now and then it gets a misfire. SO lets figure this out. Dezod your input would be greatly appreciated. Andyman, also I would like your input on the difference between 48c and 48e. After searching the internet also i have noticed that alot of members that use the 48e setting havnt had that many problems besides getting the vtec to work with there ex. Could this be the fix? could 48c be causing the cylinder misfires?
Input guys, Lets get this problem figured out.
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my emanage is terrible. it doesnt like to idle and it throws vtec codes without A) the vtec wires being hooked up, B) the jumpers and rotary settings being on vtec, C) the software being managed for vtec. I didnt start getting misfire MIL until about a week ago, and ive been boosting for about 2 months now. I do however, find my car struggling to idle on hot days when i first start it up. It'll also have a hard time returning to idle from cruising and it'll actually stall on me, this is rare, but it happens often enough for me to be concerned.
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Rep Power: 0 I ran the 4-8-E and for a year and never had a cylinder misfire once. Cylinder misfire is a tuning issue 90% of the time. Typically fuel delivery and ignition maps need to be worked to cure a problem of this nature.
I have had a lot of e-manage misfires occur with some people having faulty primary O2 sensors. That is another spot to look into.
Rotary and jumper settings also can play a role in this too.
The E-Manage can not control VTEC and we do not even wire into the harness. We leave it wired straight through and let the stock ECU handle it. No real gains from adjustment have been gained unless you are extensively re-tuning and know what your doing.
Also I never once had idle issues from 30 degrees outside to 90 degrees. I would be curious to see your maps and settings.
I hope this helps.
I have had a lot of e-manage misfires occur with some people having faulty primary O2 sensors. That is another spot to look into.
Rotary and jumper settings also can play a role in this too.
The E-Manage can not control VTEC and we do not even wire into the harness. We leave it wired straight through and let the stock ECU handle it. No real gains from adjustment have been gained unless you are extensively re-tuning and know what your doing.
Also I never once had idle issues from 30 degrees outside to 90 degrees. I would be curious to see your maps and settings.
I hope this helps.
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Originally Posted by BoostedVik
i was considering emanage, but now i am having doubts!!!! anyone else with emanage problems?
Dezod would I still encounter some of these problems if I used your PnP Harness?
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Rep Power: 0 Im using dezods harness and have the same problem with cylinder misfires.
ok here is mine, I dont care if people see them, maybe you can help me out.
ok here is mine, I dont care if people see them, maybe you can help me out.
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Originally Posted by Jeff
Im using dezods harness and have the same problem with cylinder misfires.
Originally Posted by trurace
^^^^ I feel the same way. I would go stand alone but I have an auto
Dezod would I still encounter some of these problems if I used your PnP Harness?
Dezod would I still encounter some of these problems if I used your PnP Harness?
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hey dezod, where did you get your car tuned? i need a good tuner in south florida 
Originally Posted by Jeff
Im using dezods harness and have the same problem with cylinder misfires.
ok here is mine, I dont care if people see them, maybe you can help me out.
ok here is mine, I dont care if people see them, maybe you can help me out.
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Im using dezods harness and have the same problem with cylinder misfires.
The problem does not lie in the harness. Correct I know its the emanage , not your harness, actully your harness cleared up the map sensor error. =)
Im using dezods harness and have the same problem with cylinder misfires.
The problem does not lie in the harness. Correct I know its the emanage , not your harness, actully your harness cleared up the map sensor error. =)
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Originally Posted by Rennen
speaking of the pnp harness... dezod, could you hook me up with a discount on one 
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Originally Posted by Rennen
avoiding the question huh? haha. can you reccomend a good tuner for me then? or maybe i can pay you to do it for me .
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Originally Posted by Jeff
Originally Posted by Jeff
Im using dezods harness and have the same problem with cylinder misfires.
The problem does not lie in the harness. Correct I know its the emanage , not your harness, actully your harness cleared up the map sensor error. =)
Im using dezods harness and have the same problem with cylinder misfires.
The problem does not lie in the harness. Correct I know its the emanage , not your harness, actully your harness cleared up the map sensor error. =)
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Rep Power: 0 Jeff I sent ya the file back with some changes, but I am worried about the AFR on the map. Lookin at the maps, they were counter productive in various areas (pulling fuel on map, and adding on another). It made no sense and could have lead to your problem all along.
Also your throttle is not calibrated. You DEF want to do that.
Also your throttle is not calibrated. You DEF want to do that.
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Originally Posted by Jeff
How come dezod when i sit here looking at your map you sent back,, it has nothing but 0's through out the whole airflow adjustment map.?
Your throttle was not even calibrated, so how does the e-manage know how to interpret your throttle input signal? Besides most of the values were negative (taking away fuel on that map anyway).
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Rep Power: 327 Those maps do look HORRIBLE, ive had 1 check engine light in 9 months with my e-manage and i did all my own tunning, accept for WoT on a dyno
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Rep Power: 296 Dezod is right about the airflow adjustment maps. They are useless for our cars at partial throttle. At partial throttle the ECU basically trys to override those maps to get a good (N/A) AFR. You hafta kinda let the computer do its own thing until WOT and/or under boost, otherwise you wind up with a very inconsistent tune. Personally I had the emanage, and now the AEM. Hands down the AEM wins. You do get what you pay for, but you can make the emanage work if you know how to work with it, and how the ECU you are using it with actually works. I wouldnt count it out but plan on playing with it to get a descent tune.
Oh DEZOD. Looking at those maps, was there enough timing pulled. The pressure sensor is good to like what, 30-45psi or something like that(been a while since playing with one)?? I believe peak voltage was at 5v. If that map shows 4v at 2 degrees ret. seems like maybe it might be a lil too much timing for a conservative street tune. I might be completely wrong but I figure if it saves someone an engine better to ask. I always try to play it safe though in case of bad gas or something screwing up.
Oh DEZOD. Looking at those maps, was there enough timing pulled. The pressure sensor is good to like what, 30-45psi or something like that(been a while since playing with one)?? I believe peak voltage was at 5v. If that map shows 4v at 2 degrees ret. seems like maybe it might be a lil too much timing for a conservative street tune. I might be completely wrong but I figure if it saves someone an engine better to ask. I always try to play it safe though in case of bad gas or something screwing up.
Oh DEZOD. Looking at those maps, was there enough timing pulled. The pressure sensor is good to like what, 30-45psi or something like that(been a while since playing with one)?? I believe peak voltage was at 5v. If that map shows 4v at 2 degrees ret. seems like maybe it might be a lil too much timing for a conservative street tune. I might be completely wrong but I figure if it saves someone an engine better to ask. I always try to play it safe though in case of bad gas or something screwing up.
Oh DEZOD. Looking at those maps, was there enough timing pulled. The pressure sensor is good to like what, 30-45psi or something like that(been a while since playing with one)?? I believe peak voltage was at 5v. If that map shows 4v at 2 degrees ret. seems like maybe it might be a lil too much timing for a conservative street tune. I might be completely wrong but I figure if it saves someone an engine better to ask. I always try to play it safe though in case of bad gas or something screwing up.
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Originally Posted by 02fpcivic
Dezod is right about the airflow adjustment maps. They are useless for our cars at partial throttle. At partial throttle the ECU basically trys to override those maps to get a good (N/A) AFR. You hafta kinda let the computer do its own thing until WOT and/or under boost, otherwise you wind up with a very inconsistent tune. Personally I had the emanage, and now the AEM. Hands down the AEM wins. You do get what you pay for, but you can make the emanage work if you know how to work with it, and how the ECU you are using it with actually works. I wouldnt count it out but plan on playing with it to get a descent tune.
Oh DEZOD. Looking at those maps, was there enough timing pulled. The pressure sensor is good to like what, 30-45psi or something like that(been a while since playing with one)?? I believe peak voltage was at 5v. If that map shows 4v at 2 degrees ret. seems like maybe it might be a lil too much timing for a conservative street tune. I might be completely wrong but I figure if it saves someone an engine better to ask. I always try to play it safe though in case of bad gas or something screwing up.
Oh DEZOD. Looking at those maps, was there enough timing pulled. The pressure sensor is good to like what, 30-45psi or something like that(been a while since playing with one)?? I believe peak voltage was at 5v. If that map shows 4v at 2 degrees ret. seems like maybe it might be a lil too much timing for a conservative street tune. I might be completely wrong but I figure if it saves someone an engine better to ask. I always try to play it safe though in case of bad gas or something screwing up.
Oh DEZOD. Looking at those maps, was there enough timing pulled. The pressure sensor is good to like what, 30-45psi or something like that(been a while since playing with one)?? I believe peak voltage was at 5v. If that map shows 4v at 2 degrees ret. seems like maybe it might be a lil too much timing for a conservative street tune. I might be completely wrong but I figure if it saves someone an engine better to ask. I always try to play it safe though in case of bad gas or something screwing up.
Oh DEZOD. Looking at those maps, was there enough timing pulled. The pressure sensor is good to like what, 30-45psi or something like that(been a while since playing with one)?? I believe peak voltage was at 5v. If that map shows 4v at 2 degrees ret. seems like maybe it might be a lil too much timing for a conservative street tune. I might be completely wrong but I figure if it saves someone an engine better to ask. I always try to play it safe though in case of bad gas or something screwing up.
With respect to the timing and such, the maps were set to begin on adjusting from 2V and up..........2V on the pressure sensor is 8 PSI. WTF kinda tune is that? I reprogrammed the axxis to accomodate -9 VAC to 15 PSI. Pretty much slightly adding fuel as the boost rises. I made the maps pretty linear.
