pure O2 in the intake (dont laugh lol)
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pure O2 in the intake (dont laugh lol)
what if you bleed pure o2 into your intake?
i work for an oxygen company and always wondered if you go inject o2 into the track for more power or something like it, lol. throw some ideas if you know something, beside the o2 sensors and computer would be going insane.
i work for an oxygen company and always wondered if you go inject o2 into the track for more power or something like it, lol. throw some ideas if you know something, beside the o2 sensors and computer would be going insane.
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I had that done on my Civic back in the day. I stole an oxygen tank from my grandmother's hospital room and hooked it up like NAWS. But one day after some wicked street racing and hijacking 18-wheelers, I got into a fight with these craaaazy Asian dudes and they got these uzis and shot up my car. I was like "eh, nothing I can't fix with a body kit, bondo, and vinyl," but then my bodybuilder friend was like OXYGENNNNNNNNN and we had to run away from the shot-up car before the oxygen exploded.
True story.
True story.
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Originally Posted by white2K2EX
I had that done on my Civic back in the day. I stole an oxygen tank from my grandmother's hospital room and hooked it up like NAWS. But one day after some wicked street racing and hijacking 18-wheelers, I got into a fight with these craaaazy Asian dudes and they got these uzis and shot up my car. I was like "eh, nothing I can't fix with a body kit, bondo, and vinyl," but then my bodybuilder friend was like OXYGENNNNNNNNN and we had to run away from the shot-up car before the oxygen exploded.
True story.
True story.
lmfao o2....i dont think that would be good im not sure i didnt pay attention that well in Egine theory but i think 02 has to be equal to something else i dont know ahhh shizzle im gunna fail that class
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Originally Posted by acjones21
yeah you also dont beat a blown hemi charger from a dig in a street supra either, or have 7 speeds in eclipses, or go under semi trailers in civics.
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Originally Posted by blackdragon
trailer musta been 18X18 jacked up like a rock climber
... Neways brad i'll send in that thing when i get proper packaging for it
thanks meng.
f&f rules, and thats where i got the idea from lol
Originally Posted by Slow Poke
iv seen a ricer friend of mine do a Co2 thing dunno how well it worked tho didnt stick around to see
Originally Posted by ragingSPAM
my friend had setup a pure o2 injection on his car before and it gave him some power but it ran out fast and was almost pointless
Originally Posted by familycar
R U sure about that. because the introduction of pure oxygen in the combustion chamber could be catostrophic if there isnt enough fuel present to cool it. fuel has awesome cooling properties. but pure oxygen burns at much too high of a temperature and ignites at too low of a temp to be injected into a motor solely. it could easily freeze your motor up from excessive heat. nitrous can be injected because it has other elements that keep it from burning at such a high temp and igniting and such a low temp. that is also why sulphur is used in a lot of automotive nitrous. either your friend got very lucky or he blew his motor or he never injected enough to make a difference.
oh btw.... holy shyte!! WHITE2K2EX that was flippin hilarious
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Looks like everyone who has responded to this thread to this point needs to go back to grade 9 science class. Oxygen isn't a fuel, so it doesn't burn!!! When things burn they are combined with oxygen to liberate energy, this is called combustion. Like oxygen, Nitrous oxide is not a fuel, but rather it is an oxidizer. The guy who works with liquid oxygen should have noticed the whimis label doesn't say combustible.
If you don't understand this very basic fact, it's pretty hard to do anything to improve the performance of your car.
If you don't understand this very basic fact, it's pretty hard to do anything to improve the performance of your car.
Originally Posted by CoupeStylz
Looks like everyone who has responded to this thread to this point needs to go back to grade 9 science class. Oxygen isn't a fuel, so it doesn't burn!!! When things burn they are combined with oxygen to liberate energy, this is called combustion. Like oxygen, Nitrous oxide is not a fuel, but rather it is an oxidizer. The guy who works with liquid oxygen should have noticed the whimis label doesn't say combustible.
If you don't understand this very basic fact, it's pretty hard to do anything to improve the performance of your car.
If you don't understand this very basic fact, it's pretty hard to do anything to improve the performance of your car.
the mere fact that you discredit my knowledge for wording something incorrectly when you know exactly what i spoke of shows your true ignorance or lack of. have a great day too
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I wasn't "picking things apart to make myself seem smart". I was making light of an important and relevant fact which seemed to have escaped everyone until I pointed it out. Namely, that combustion in an engine uses oxygen to burn fuel, and not the other way around. People such as yourself were talking nonsense like what temperature oxygen burns at and so on. My comments weren't directed at you specifically, familycar so your defensiveness and attacks at myself were really uncalled for.
Contribute to the discussion with real knowledge, or prepare to be called out.
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Originally Posted by CoupeStylz
I wasn't "picking things apart to make myself seem smart". I was making light of an important and relevant fact which seemed to have escaped everyone until I pointed it out. Namely, that combustion in an engine uses oxygen to burn fuel, and not the other way around. People such as yourself were talking nonsense like what temperature oxygen burns at and so on. My comments weren't directed at you specifically, familycar so your defensiveness and attacks at myself were really uncalled for.
Contribute to the discussion with real knowledge, or prepare to be called out.
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not to flood this thread, but...
Originally Posted by familycar
ok then for the guy who wants to be 100% technical oxygen is an oxidizer yes but it is a vital part of combustion. so the fact that you are discrediting it also shows that you need learn a little more. oxygen does cause a faster hotter burn in the combustion chamber and cannot be directly injected into an intake system with out fuel to cool the combustion temp. also it causes the burn the happen at much to fast of a rate. wait a minute why am i repeating myself oh that is right the guy above me wanted to be technical and act as though what i said isnt true so i had to reword what i stated to his liking. sorry but i am not going to retype my statement above. i said oxygen burns instead of it contributes to and you cannot have combustion with out it. big deal you get the point and so does everyone here. my mistake has nothing to do with my knowledge about engine performance just a mistake as i was thinking faster than i type. but its ok i realize that some people like to pick things a part to make themselves seem smart when they really dont understand the entire topic or dont know the answer to reply.
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the mere fact that you discredit my knowledge for wording something incorrectly when you know exactly what i spoke of shows your true ignorance or lack of. have a great day tooyour comments may not have been directed at me but did include me. you comment was that i need to go back to 9th grade science class and i dont understand basic facts about what happens when oxygen is introduced into the combustion chamber. my comment stated that oxygen burns much too hot. well if i would have put that much oxygen causes it to burn much too hot i would have been correct. if that isnt nit picky i dont know what is. we are typing on the internet fool. i am not being graded on sentence structure. you got the point and so did anyone else that read it yet you still felt it necessary to make such a blanket statement as you did. so my frustration does show when trying to defend myself against the damn grammar police. you knew what i said and had to comment just to be a smart *** its obvious. so move on i am not here to argue about sentence structure just let this guy know he could be in for a world of trouble trying to inject pure oxygen into his intake.
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the mere fact that you discredit my knowledge for wording something incorrectly when you know exactly what i spoke of shows your true ignorance or lack of. have a great day tooyour comments may not have been directed at me but did include me. you comment was that i need to go back to 9th grade science class and i dont understand basic facts about what happens when oxygen is introduced into the combustion chamber. my comment stated that oxygen burns much too hot. well if i would have put that much oxygen causes it to burn much too hot i would have been correct. if that isnt nit picky i dont know what is. we are typing on the internet fool. i am not being graded on sentence structure. you got the point and so did anyone else that read it yet you still felt it necessary to make such a blanket statement as you did. so my frustration does show when trying to defend myself against the damn grammar police. you knew what i said and had to comment just to be a smart *** its obvious. so move on i am not here to argue about sentence structure just let this guy know he could be in for a world of trouble trying to inject pure oxygen into his intake.
wow... very well put. and look the whole point about these post is to get the point across without breaking it down barney-style so that people dont feel like a complete @ss for asking the question so that they will ask other questions and not blow thier car to high heaven. as for the 9th grade crack im not gonna lie good one... for real. and your right not combustible but it does highly support combustion... like the igniting of a gas maybe? (thats two and a half years fire fighting and one cryogenics talking). we're all here to help each other out, if im right cool if im wrong thats cool too, just correct me so that i dont f$%k it up myself nothing to it. but really the point is that its not a good idea to put straight o2 into your engine... oh and btw
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My money would be on the car would run a little harder and more powerful, but the ECU wouldn't handle it gracefully.
Obviously, I've never done this, but I can take a pretty good guess at what would happen.
The O2 sensor would swing WAY out of range. The ECU would freak out and either go into open-loop mode, or use other sensors to try and meter fuel (I haven't looked at the EFI system on this car yet to know which).
Either way, the ECU will deliver about the same amount of fuel as it would for a normally-aspirated car. This means that your mixture would effectively be WAY lean. Your engine would either ping or predetonate, and the combustion chamber temperature would get very high. Eventually, you would melt an exhaust valve or few, and you would no longer have compression. Or you would vaporize the nose of your spark plugs (usually good to 850C). Etc., ad nausem. These are all well-known effects for an ultra-lean-running engine, you don't need to speculate much here.
So, what if you had a power commander or something for the ECU, and were able to deliver enough fuel to keep the mixture near stoichiometric? (Note -- there is no guarantee the Civic's injectors could do this, especially given the single-ended fuel rail). You would make one HELLA LOT OF POWER. Until something broke, which wouldn't take long at all. Given what I've read about the D engines, my money would be on connecting rods.
As for mister rice boy with the carbon dioxide setup. WTF? You know that's what they put in fire extinguishers, right? Hint -- your combustion chamber needs to be able to light a fire now and then...
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The O2 sensor would swing WAY out of range. The ECU would freak out and either go into open-loop mode, or use other sensors to try and meter fuel (I haven't looked at the EFI system on this car yet to know which).
Either way, the ECU will deliver about the same amount of fuel as it would for a normally-aspirated car. This means that your mixture would effectively be WAY lean. Your engine would either ping or predetonate, and the combustion chamber temperature would get very high. Eventually, you would melt an exhaust valve or few, and you would no longer have compression. Or you would vaporize the nose of your spark plugs (usually good to 850C). Etc., ad nausem. These are all well-known effects for an ultra-lean-running engine, you don't need to speculate much here.
So, what if you had a power commander or something for the ECU, and were able to deliver enough fuel to keep the mixture near stoichiometric? (Note -- there is no guarantee the Civic's injectors could do this, especially given the single-ended fuel rail). You would make one HELLA LOT OF POWER. Until something broke, which wouldn't take long at all. Given what I've read about the D engines, my money would be on connecting rods.
As for mister rice boy with the carbon dioxide setup. WTF? You know that's what they put in fire extinguishers, right? Hint -- your combustion chamber needs to be able to light a fire now and then...
Wes



