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o.k. so i found the diy on how to do it but it looks like i will need to drill through the lower center beam and through the lower control arms. It only says lower center beam but not lower control arm. is it both?

 
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To attach the 2 center brackets for the sway bar, you drill the subframe. You shouldn't be anywhere near the control arms.

 
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I am a bit confused as to what you are looking at. IS your car an ex?? IF so you should not have to drill any thing. If you need help let me know I am in sac too!

 
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on this pic from the diy it looks like the bottom holes for the sway bar bushing penetrate the lower control arm.

 
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No way, the holes are higher up. They don;t go through the LCA. Don't trust an MS paint drawing, the install kit should have a drilling template.

 
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it wont i bought an rsx sway bar that comes with the bushings.

 
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Well you need the mounting kit. You cant just bolt the sway bar on without the mounting hardware. The subframe is thin sheet metal.

 
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in this pic from this sites diy it shows it bolting directly to the subframe

 
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Last step of the DIY
Slap on the 2 bushing holders and bolt the top 2 ends first using the 3 and a 1/2 inch 8 mm bolt with the 8mm nutz (getting the driver side will be tricky. Because u drilled under the fuel tank bracket, you'll need nimble rat claws to get the nutz on)

Bolt up the bottom 2 with the 8mm nutz.

so in plain english, drill the face of the subframe, stick a nut behind it, thread a bolt through the hole, into the nut, and tighten


This sounds overly ghetto to me, I don't know who wrote the DIY, but I'd out a fender washer back there. Just a nut is asking for a tearout.

Something appears to be in error in the DIY, I cannot see how you can use 3.5" bolts there, the LCA is solid.
Then again, I wouldn't trust a DIY written with 'z's instead of esses.
When stock the bolts are less than an inch long. what the justification for 3.5" bolts is, is honestly beyond me, and quite honestly, I'd steer clear of the DIY unless someone can attest to it working right.
DO NOT drill through the LCA, you'll lock it in place.

 
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so should i sale my rsx sway bar and just buy the progress one?

 
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You can use the progress kit with any sway bar. Just buy the progress mounting kit. If you search back a ways, 'Grey' did a write up on the mounting kit.

 
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yeah thats why i asked. i dont know anything about suspensions. but i know that i shouldnt lock the lca in place at a 2nd fulcrum point.

 
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yeah i bought one but it only came with the parts where the endlinks hook up. it didnt come with the metal plate that says progress in the middle like in greys. the box is so small theres no way it would fit in there so i know it doesnt come with one. is there a 2nd adap kit that i need?

 
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The progress mounting kit is the same way. YOu drill a small hole in front of the control arm and stick a small bolt in there. Just how it is.

 
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the progress kit is the same way as what? what is "it"?
are you talking about the original diy?

 
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The bar is the tie bar that comes with the sway bar kit. Its not needed for mounting a sway bar.

 
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FOllow the directions grey has for the progess kit for just the brackets. Mark them, drill them, and bolt them in. The bottom one will be near the LCA, but you don't drill through the LCA. IT is a small bolt.

 
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this is whats confusing me. you guys are calling it a tie bar but in the progress instructions its called a "rear brace" and my kit didnt come with one.

 
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IT DOESN'T COME WITH THE MOUNTING KIT.
Tie bar, rear brace, subframe support, call it what they like, they're one and the same. You don't need it to install a sway bar, there's a reason its not in the kit. Their instructions imply you're using it to install THEIR sway bar. You can use the kit to install any sway bar. If you can't figure it out, please don't go drilling holes in the car.

 
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ok now that i know they are 1 in the same its coming together in my head. and your saying the lower bolt is a short bolt held on by a nut between the subframe and lower control arm?

 
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The diy on this forum for the rear progress sway is really good and detailed check it out. Its basically the same you need nut certs which my old man has and I can get(plus the tool which is pricey). To secure the mouts for the actual sway bar. Now for mounting the end links I would go with greys kit on that but I am sure that progress makes one.


Here I found it for you check it out!!
http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...27#post2031627

 
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Doesn't the progress adapter kit come with endlinks?

 
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yes it does. it just doesnt come with a rear brace aka Tie bar or subframe support. the problem with their directions is that the "rear brace" is the template for drilling for the bushing brackets. So if you buy their 01 civic sway bar adap kit and a rsx bar you kinda get to wing the drilling. But it will only be off by maybe 1/8 of an inch.

 
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ohh I see wut u mean, I actually just picked up my progress sway bar, but it doesn't include a tie bar. Doesn't progress sell them separately?

 
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it comes with and without. but on our cars the tie bar is just cosmetic. theres really no good reason to waste your money.

 
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ok i no ur all gonna probablly wanan slap me but im serious noob at this stuff what are the benefits of a sway bar?

 
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look at robbclark1's sig it has all the suspension faq in there. http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/fa...aq_susp_faq_q9 SWAY BARS – generally provide an excellent means for adjusting roll couple Distribution (Handling balance) & they control body roll, reducing camber change through corners

 
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Definition: A component that's often used in a suspension system to control body roll. A sway bar may be used on the front and/or rear suspension to help keep the body flat as the vehicle rounds a corner. This greatly improves a vehicle's cornering agility. Replacing the sway bar with one of a larger diameter can increase it even more.

http://autorepair.about.com/library/...bldef-725b.htm

simple google search , fatman > u

 
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I know it doesn't have much effect, but I want to do the holes right

 
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its only an issue with an 01 otherwise the progress tie bar holes will match up with the factory sway bar bushing bracket holes.