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Have a look at the link and use it as an example:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...spagename=WDVW

The guy says its comes with wideband o2 sensor and Greddy a/f gauge.
Does it mean if you install these 2 items you will be able ro monitor exact a/f ratio?
You will also be albe to tune by yourself?
Or I'm missing something?

 
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GReddy does not make a wideband gauge. All of their gauges are narrow band sensors.

 
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For a full wideband set up you need: w-b o2 sensor and w-b a/f gauge + generic wires
Wideband Bosch o2 costs about $80, wires free
Ok, how much does a generic wideband gauge cost?...

Dezod, sounds as good w-b starter kit to me!
All guns are pointed in your directions!

Just found this in the Google:
http://www.autocarparts.com/part/list/1507/

 
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http://dezod.com/pd_innovate_motorsp...lone_gauge.cfm

 
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Not quite

"The M-Series Narrowband to Wideband Gauge Converter is a small inexpensive device used to connect between the M-Series` wideband output signal and the input signal to any AutoMeter air/fuel ratio gauge . When no LEDs are on, the measured air/fuel ratio is 20.0:1 or more. When the LED at the 5 o clock position is on, the measured air/fuel ratio is 10.0:1 or less. Each adjacent LED corresponds to exactly a change of 0.5:1 air/fuel ratio."

So you need a PLX device. Also, a sweeping needle gauge is NOWHERE near accurate as a digital readout.

Why half-*** it? Spend the money for the right thing. You spent, what, 3500 on a kit and you can't spend 350 on the most useful tuning tool there is???

 
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I'm not talking about myself, but sometimes you just want to be different: like fully custom parts, unusual car colour or whatever there is....

Setting up a basic wideband with sensor and wideband (ok electornic ) gauge looks to me as a good product to someone who wants monitor correct a/f readout and stay with basics.
Not to discuss ebay example, but just buying w-b o2 and w-b electro gauge is going to works in terms of looking after a/f ratio? Is there anything else needed?

 
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Yea, you need the controller.
Think of it this way...
You have the gauge ( TV)
You have the Sensor (Game)
But you don't have the PS2 (Controller)...

So it's like having a PS2 game, and a TV and no PS2.

 
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Guttcha now!

I thought sensor and gause is enough!
Smart me!

 
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I got a innovative XD-1 standalone and it is a great investment. very small easy readout and datalogs great. I would def. reccomend it to anyone boosting.

 
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Tell 'em where you got it from?

 
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I am somewhat confused with all this wideband talk.. does it work with the car's ECU to keep the A/F ratio proper, or is it a a separate unit that just gives a better reading and you would still need something else to tune it? I have tried searching but just leads me in circles.

 
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Confused?
Its easy, wideband is the sensor with gauge, that can read exact a/r ratio at that particular time. Its a tuner's tool to understand exactly how engine running.
Based on the gauge readout you can adjust you a/f accordingly to have engine run in top tune.
With advanced wideband you can datalog info for future use...
Wideband is set up usualy sells in the neighborhood of $400, so its ot cheap.
Hope it helps, thanks to Google and 7thgens!

 
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thanks for your help. So you still need an emanage or some way of adjusting the ratio with the data the gauge gives. My setup now has 2 o2 sensors, so does this replace one of the existing o2 sensors, or do I drill a new o2 bung. Would it get the best reading before the cat if you have one, right? Would this only be helpful on a turbo car or would it make a NA car run smoother? I am probably going to get a turbo some day, but this might be something to do now, so its already done later.

 
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Need extra connect for the o2 sensor on the header, yes need somekind of fuel/air managment system, dont bother if no mods or with bolt ons.
On Turbo/Nitrous - Yes

 
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I wouldnt waste the money like he said^^.

Unless you plan on boosting or spraying, dont bother.


You and i were thinking the same thing 03-Acura. I was searching ebay right about the time that you posted this thread. Thanks for the info.

 
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http://www.dynotunenitrous.com/store...?idproduct=151


Check it out, this hooks up to my current gauge. Not a bad deal, still comes to 350+ w/the price of my current gauge. but its pretty sweet. I may get this one. Anybody tried it out?

 
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Does it come with the gauge or you have to buy one separetly?

Also I found this product on the same site:
http://www.dynotunenitrous.com/store...p?idproduct=15

They say they can convert narrowband to wideband. Its only $99. Will this work?

 
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I already have the z-series autometer gauge. It can be hooked up to that. You would have to have an autometer gauge to use the one I posted. Im gonna check out what you posted.

Peace

 
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that looks sick. It says its a narrowband basically, but gives you a more accurate reading. Im not sure exactly how that works, or if its very accurate. Sounds like a nice product though. Im gonna look more into it. Thanks a lot!

Peace

...this site is pretty nice, imo. awesome prices.