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Old Jun 24, 2005
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pics of DC's new race header

found this link in a newsletter aem puts out. the link is in pdf so you can zoom it. This header looks very nice and has the tru 4-2-1 tri Y set up. Just thought I would share.
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Alright, but how much!?@#!@?#

I've heard about this combo, but can't find a price. I think it'd match up very well to the TCS that I've got.
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how much of a difference is this compared to just a DC shorty header??
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how much of a difference is this compared to just a DC shorty header??
larger diameter piping longer equal length primaries and secondaries. it also eliminates the cat. I believe that this will have triple the gains that a shorty header with the stock cat would be. I think the going price is around 360 ish.
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just bought one from dezod and a greddy evo2.
take some pics when you get it and let us know how it fits and performs.
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will this throw a CEL? cuz i've had a CEL on since i got that damn HKS-A downpipe and its annoying as all hell.
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yup you will need an o2 sim. I think bigjoshracing has them.
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Originally Posted by djmota
yup you will need an o2 sim. I think bigjoshracing has them.
cant i just use my stock one? and ill get pics and a butt dyno.
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stock 02 sim? um i don't think they come stock. Just get one from bigjoshracing. Also I thought the 4-2-1 was an outdated design and not that great for power?

Over the past 15 years Kamikaze's Research & Development department has been dedicated to revolutionizing the racing industry. Prior to Kamikaze's 4 into 1, 1 3/4” two piece header, there were only two options in the market. A 4 into 1 full length header and a tri-y, 4-2-1. The mistake of the 4 into 1 full length header is that the primary tubes are 1 1/2” 16 gauge diameter in size and the over all length is approximately 30”. With this design you have less torque, mediocre on mid range and weak on top end. Due to the diameter of the primary tubes are too small and too long in overall length. Further, installation is extremely difficult and you need to relocate the 02 sensors.

A Tri-y 4-2-1 header did help in the early 80’s but when cars began to have more horsepower and torque. The Tri-y configuration were found useless and out dated for today's compact cars. A Tri-y header was never designed to be a performance header. It was originally designed for a truck. That needed the torque for towing. Which also fails miserably at top end. You never see a tri-y header on a dragster or any professional racing vehicle.
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i think the dc race header 4-2-1 would outperform any other header on the market for the 01+ civic. (exclude those turbo headers).

the pipes have smooth and more bends, larger diameter piping (just like HP's), and looks like it'll be a great design for power. http://dezod.com/pd_dc_sports_421_2.cfm

if it replaces your factory cat converter, its gonna throw a CEL. that could be one reason why its giving more power...(catless)
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Okay well lets first put some things to rest. Larger piping won't do you a bit of good unless you have the motor built and ported. All it will do is free up the exhaust and cause all kinds of torque losses. Yes I agree having no cat might increase flow rate, but why not get a hi flow cat that won't trip the cel and still passes emissions? Smooth bends? I think every header made has smooth bends. Imo, the design is terrible for a civic. Looks like they didn't put any research into this. But then again what can you expect from aem. I'll wait for the dyno where it gives 1whp. I guess thats more than the old dc 4-1 that gave 0.5whp or something rediculous.
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thats an 02 sensor. the sim is an aftermarket part that tells the ecu everything is okay with the cat so the engine light doesn't come on.
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just wait til the fools start selling it on ebay for alot less
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well see
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screw getting the one from that place, do the mechanical O2 sim works great on mine, just remember, ANTI-SEIZE
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Use a anti-defouler. I believe thats what its called. Thats what some rsx and Si people are using right now and you wont get a CEL. And it only costs about 5 bucks
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anyone install this yet???
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ill keep my hp racing shorty header. theyll both give about the same gains. if i wanted to run a hiflow cat id just put my megan dp back on.
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