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Old Apr 6, 2005
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Me vs. Friends RSX

Which do you think would win? My 01 LX Coupe vs. my friends 02 Base RSX. We both have AEM short ram intakes but he also has a magnaflow exhaust. The only advantage I have is a 5-speed manuel vs. his shift tronic thingy. Sooo.......what do you guys think? 1/4 run, complete safe none of that FnF traffic weaving.
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Originally Posted by PennyKnotOff
Which do you think would win? My 01 LX Coupe vs. my friends 02 Base RSX. We both have AEM short ram intakes but he also has a magnaflow exhaust. The only advantage I have is a 5-speed manuel vs. his shift tronic thingy. Sooo.......what do you guys think? 1/4 run, complete safe none of that FnF traffic weaving.
it'll be close. Take out your spare and subs out. It will be a close race if you shift right. Never tested an lx 5spd but the 5spd advantage is alot. RSX autos are as slow as our civics.
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Originally Posted by Civic_RedLine
it'll be close. Take out your spare and subs out. It will be a close race if you shift right. Never tested an lx 5spd but the 5spd advantage is alot. RSX autos are as slow as our civics.
That's what if figure, I drove his car and in between shifts there is a lot of lag compared to traditional manuel. If anything i think i can atleast keep up w/ him.....
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Rsx >
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Too close to call.

I'd give a slight advantage to the RSX for the reason it's an auto, and he's less likely to screw up driving.
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I say rsx.. drove both cars my 04 ex with i/h/e and a base rsx sporttronic shifter.. if he uses the manual shifter, he will beat you..
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Forgive my ignorance but:

160>115

What I mean is that while he has an auto can a 5-speed manual really make up an extra 45 horses? Although I know those rsx's are a bit heavier than our vics...hmm.....Im still saying rsx even though it would be closer than I originally thought...good luck to ya if you choose to do it!

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^^^ um... 45 horses
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RSX, for sure.
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Yea it has more horsepower but from a stop, you don't look at hp really. You gotta look at the tq on the engine. HP doesn't get your car moving, TQ does. 0-60 are based almost completely on the TQ # and curve of the TQ.
Civic Lx
TQ 110 ft-lbs. @ 4500 rpm
Weight 2536 lbs.

RSX - you said base so I'm assuming no leather
TQ 141 ft-lbs. @ 4000 rpm
Weight 2809 lbs.

He has more weight than you, but more than enough TQ (it looks like) to make up for the weight and pull on you. If it was a stick I'd be scared, since its a 5spd auto? I'd say he'd beat you still but not by a lot.
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it wont be a smackdown but he'll get cha
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yeah if u got the 5 spd u'll win if u dont miss any gears. if hes a 5 speed too, then it'd be a good one IMO.
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i thought auto base RSX's run 16's....... certainly in the realm of a civic.
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Originally Posted by Boggie1688
Yea it has more horsepower but from a stop, you don't look at hp really. You gotta look at the tq on the engine. HP doesn't get your car moving, TQ does. 0-60 are based almost completely on the TQ # and curve of the TQ.
Civic Lx
TQ 110 ft-lbs. @ 4500 rpm
Weight 2536 lbs.

RSX - you said base so I'm assuming no leather
TQ 141 ft-lbs. @ 4000 rpm
Weight 2809 lbs.

He has more weight than you, but more than enough TQ (it looks like) to make up for the weight and pull on you. If it was a stick I'd be scared, since its a 5spd auto? I'd say he'd beat you still but not by a lot.

Yes, your correct in your explanation of TQ being the important number off of the line!

Horsepower @ RPM:
RSX (AT) 160@6500
CIVIC (LX-manual) 115@6100

Torque @ RPM:
RSX (AT) 141@4000
CIVIC (LX-manual) 110@4500

Curb Weight:
RSX (AT) 2809
CIVIC (LX-manual) 2538

My money is on the RSX...better torque, better horsepower, and the automatic RSX has the Sequential SportShift.
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Originally Posted by Civic_RedLine
it'll be close. Take out your spare and subs out. It will be a close race if you shift right. Never tested an lx 5spd but the 5spd advantage is alot. RSX autos are as slow as our civics.
he'll need a lot more that removal of 30lbs!
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bah, just go for it!
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Im pretty sure RSX, maybe if you had an EX you would stand a chance...
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Originally Posted by S2000man01
i thought auto base RSX's run 16's....... certainly in the realm of a civic.
yup, I been reading in the clubrsx forum and some of those auto base rsxs run only 110 whp with intake/exhaust...
I would use the 15" rims I sold you instead of using your 18s that you have anthony.

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^^ great suggestion, if your running 18s get rid of them for the race. they will slow you down considerably
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should be a good race. you'll get him off the line but he may creep on you a bit. A good launch would own the rsx
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Originally Posted by 04RedCiVP
Yes, your correct in your explanation of TQ being the important number off of the line!

Horsepower @ RPM:
RSX (AT) 160@6500
CIVIC (LX-manual) 115@6100

Torque @ RPM:
RSX (AT) 141@4000
CIVIC (LX-manual) 110@4500

Curb Weight:
RSX (AT) 2809
CIVIC (LX-manual) 2538

My money is on the RSX...better torque, better horsepower, and the automatic RSX has the Sequential SportShift.
just pointing out. the numbers here mean nothing, because you've left out far too many other things that are more important than peak hp and torque.

A lot of people are spouting out torque and hp numbers, yet ignoring one thing.


the only important numbers are real world 1/4 mile. And as I said, a base auto RSX runs 16's. So it's a close race, and actually, the civic will probably pull and/or win.
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Yea it has more horsepower but from a stop, you don't look at hp really. You gotta look at the tq on the engine. HP doesn't get your car moving, TQ does. 0-60 are based almost completely on the TQ # and curve of the TQ.
See I talked about curve
I know what you mean s2kman, but we really dunno...soo I'm speculating off numbers. Thats all I can do.
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I'm going to side w. the RSX, you might get him off the line, but once everyone is up to speed I think he'll walk you.
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Originally Posted by Civic_RedLine
yup, I been reading in the clubrsx forum and some of those auto base rsxs run only 110 whp with intake/exhaust...
I would use the 15" rims I sold you instead of using your 18s that you have anthony.
110WHP?? thats very sad...... 45% loss??
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It will be close with the LX if you drive well. If not he will win. My friend has a base RSX with the auto shifter and I pull on it with out any trouble at all, but I have more mods and a EX that weights less than your lx if you have subs and spare tire. It will be very close
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i just raced a manny base today. Beat it four times. Think about it. Stock civic runs low to mid 16's and base's (manual) run like high to mid 15's. So really its a drivers race.
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I'm gonna got for it tonight after he gets off work. Subs gone and Steelies on i'm ready. Wish me luck, i'm gonna need it.
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He backed out last night said he didn't have money for gas. I'm starting to think i could take him...
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