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Old Jan 8, 2005
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a truck is not a race car

I have had several encounters with trucks before, and I've always been opinionated about how dumb it looks to try and take your truck and make it into a race car. Nothing makes less sense than getting something that could haul around a civic in the bed, jacked up 30 feet off the ground, and then racing it like it's a damn camaro. If you want a camaro, get a camaro. don't get a truck, and then try to turn it into one.

Case in point.

Earlier today I encountered a truck that looked a lot like my ex-fiancee's brother's. (quick background, i dont talk to her or him or any of them really.... BAD breakup and her parents can lick my cat's stinky ***)

It's a dodge ram sport I believe, and he had the windows tinted, big ugly ram stickers on the back, a big ugly spoiler, his dumb glasspacks, and blackout headlights. He was also one of those types who knows everything, and is right about anything he argues with you about. Interestingly enough, he liked to talk smack about my "weak 4 cylinder" and his truck, etc, saying that his horsepower is more and he'd be faster anyways.

I end up next to him at a light. I was already at the light and he pulled up. Now I don't know if he realized it was me right away, but the cocky little bastid started revving his truck, glasspacks and all. I certainly wasn't going to turn down this race, and upon the light turning green, laid waste to his truck, as I have plenty of trucks before him. Chalk another one up for a "weak" 4 cylinder taking down some dumb truck thinking he has a camaro.

I've yet to lose to a truck, though I know there are fast trucks out there. The closest I ever got to losing to a truck, was an F150 lightning and a dodge ram srt-10. Now there's 2 trucks that can haul some ***. Though I don't understand the reasoning behind it, to each their own i suppose.

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bwahahahaa.........that is supreme ownage......if that is really your ex's brother.

btw.........i have seen some trucks out there that can haul ***.........but 99% of the time, they are dogs.

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Some trucks... tsk tsk tsk...

Oh well, like you said, to each his own.
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I dunno man, those lightnings are quick as hell.
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were you in your S2000??? Or do you still have your civic as a winter car??? I wasted a V8 ram the other day in my civic so if you were in your S2000 I can see why you owned.
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yeah S2000. i dont have anything except the S2k.
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yeah someone at my school had a lightning and pulled very hard for a truck. The cyclones are pretty fast trucks too.
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well done
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I got beat by a 12 second cyclose at the track once lol

the SRT -10's are suprising slow compared to what youd'd expect. However, they could pull my car behind them and prolly run the same ET lol

always nice to shame the morons out there. If they learned their lesson it would be even better though. nice kill.
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nicely done sir. can i live vicariously through your kills...they always seem so fun
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Dude, it's the same reasoning behind making an economy car fast....because you can. Neither are made to go fast, but if you can make em, it's fun as hell. I had a buddy in highschool who had a 74 Cheyenne will a 400 in it. It was an automatic and would still chirp the tires shifting into second. He's beaten Mustangs, Camaros, and ricers.

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Originally Posted by Metallica454
Dude, it's the same reasoning behind making an economy car fast....because you can. Neither are made to go fast, but if you can make em, it's fun as hell. I had a buddy in highschool who had a 74 Cheyenne will a 400 in it. It was an automatic and would still chirp the tires shifting into second. He's beaten Mustangs, Camaros, and ricers.
trying to make a truck into a race car is far different than trying to make a civic a race car.

a civic, if nothing else, is known for it's aftermarket, considering how many people do it vs people with trucks. a civic may be an economy car, but honda supports its aftermarket, and people make civics faster all the time.

a truck is a truck. why take some big *** dodge ram and try to turn it into a race car after you jacked it up, put monster tires on it, and strapped your rebel flag to it? half of what you've done is completely counter-productive to "racing" your truck anyways. so that's the difference.
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Originally Posted by S2000man01
trying to make a truck into a race car is far different than trying to make a civic a race car.

a civic, if nothing else, is known for it's aftermarket, considering how many people do it vs people with trucks. a civic may be an economy car, but honda supports its aftermarket, and people make civics faster all the time.

a truck is a truck. why take some big *** dodge ram and try to turn it into a race car after you jacked it up, put monster tires on it, and strapped your rebel flag to it? half of what you've done is completely counter-productive to "racing" your truck anyways. so that's the difference.
i agree there. i have no problem with people who don't get 33 inch tires and race trucks. the problem is the same as people who put spoilers, body kits, and 19's on their "racing" civics. street vehicles are gonna be dual purpose. hondas will get good MPG and can be made fast. trucks can haul mad stuff and be made fast. no difference.
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Originally Posted by S2000man01
trying to make a truck into a race car is far different than trying to make a civic a race car.

a civic, if nothing else, is known for it's aftermarket, considering how many people do it vs people with trucks. a civic may be an economy car, but honda supports its aftermarket, and people make civics faster all the time.

a truck is a truck. why take some big *** dodge ram and try to turn it into a race car after you jacked it up, put monster tires on it, and strapped your rebel flag to it? half of what you've done is completely counter-productive to "racing" your truck anyways. so that's the difference.
Yeah the civic is THE tunning car. The only thing its missing is the horsepower. Its got the handling, and its got the tunning capability.
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Originally Posted by S2000man01
....... and strapped your rebel flag to it

bwahahaha.........dude, i have 2 kids that live near me. One has old dodge from the 80's and has big tires, jacked up and smoke stacks. He always drives around in the summer with a confederate flag and a US flag out the back of his pick up. The other kid up the road has a mid - late 90's dodge that is jacked up with mud tires. It is a diesel and and on the front windshield it says "I'd rather be cummin" and on the rear window it says, "Than a strokin" Oh yeah, he has smoke stacks too and he always drive around with a US flag in his truck too.
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Originally Posted by nindoo
Yeah the civic is THE tunning car. The only thing its missing is the horsepower. Its got the handling, and its got the tunning capability.
The D17 has ZERO tuning capability. Why do you think people swap all the time?

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I agree that jacking up a truck and everything is counter-productive to racing, but not everyone does that. I'm saying that you can make a truck into a race car. Lifts and huge tires isnt the way to go, just like with Civics, huge wings and cut springs arent the way to go, but people do it. If you can make a 4800 lbs truck run low 13s top 146 mph and pull .87g on the skidpad, you've accoplished something. If you are going to stereotype truck owners at least be fair and stereotype Civic owners. I thought you'd be a little more open to fast trucks, since you seem to be one of the more intelligent people on this site.
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yeah i get what you're sayin
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Originally Posted by Metallica454
The D17 has ZERO tuning capability. Why do you think people swap all the time?

he said civic, not D17
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thats funny....i remember beating a ram before.
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civic01vtec : I think he did mean the 7thgencivics, cuz we are on a D17 civic forum...and I don't think people call the civics as D17, B16...etc =P

on a side note back to topic, yes I also think truck racers (on the street) are ignorant, apparently they think having a big V8 and bigger horsepower than smaller cars, they'd be faster not knowing that they have ZERO cornering abilities and weigh as much as a 2 ton boulder.

that is also one of the reasons why texas sucks to live in, when I had my civic...i get revved by at least one truck driver a day.
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civic01vtec : I think he did mean the 7thgencivics, cuz we are on a D17 civic forum...and I don't think people call the civics as D17, B16...etc =P
naw, he meant D17........then he said, why do u think ppl swap all the time......meaning, ppl swap with bigger and better motors in their civics.
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theres no tuning capability for a civic besides a..... TURBO.
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holy crap..i can't believe the dodge ram actually thought he was going to take out an s2000.... the s2000 is mostly motor and hardly any weight compared to his big brick on wheels. truly amazing. good kill
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Originally Posted by civic01vtec
bwahahaha.........dude, i have 2 kids that live near me. One has old dodge from the 80's and has big tires, jacked up and smoke stacks. He always drives around in the summer with a confederate flag and a US flag out the back of his pick up. The other kid up the road has a mid - late 90's dodge that is jacked up with mud tires. It is a diesel and and on the front windshield it says "I'd rather be cummin" and on the rear window it says, "Than a strokin" Oh yeah, he has smoke stacks too and he always drive around with a US flag in his truck too.
sounds like total class, heh heh
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funny thread, there are a few of you that are prety narrow minded.

i have a truck. i drive it to work. haul things in it. it is great in the snow. stops good and is ok in the corners. no, it's not a race car.

that being said does anyone want to race?
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parish8 we're not narrowminded, we're just seeing things the way it is...if you drive a truck then it's obviously for towing, hauling people around or as you say drive it to work. I'm not saying trucks can't corner...lol obviously when I say they can't corner I mean they can't corner compared to an economy car given their height and weight and whatever else you technical guys want to throw in. My point is...a truck is a machine meant for things that economy, sports, or vans can't do...and that is tow huge loads of mass objects or things. So when people turn their trucks into "sport cars" it's pretty pathetic. and of course there are the exceptions to everything like truly tuned trucks for racing...but how many do u see on the streets?
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people can ask why mod an economy car. why not start with a camaro if you want to go fast for cheap? it's not any diferent.

the site where i hang out the top 12 trucks are in the 11's or quicker and most of them are driven every single day.

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my mind is open i never said there were no trucks that aren't fast, I'm just stating the fast trucks to fast economy car ratio is an unfair match. and wasn't the whole subject of this thread about people that race their trucks thinking it's fast (without even modding it)? Don't get me wrong, I hate civic/neon/mustang ricers as much as truck ricers, but we are on the subject of truck ricers so I will bash on those LOL. I give props to Lightnings and SSRs because they're the two trucks I like. If you want to build a fast truck, more power to you, but don't try to race people if you put offroading tires and raise ur truck 3 feet off the ground.
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