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Interest in Full-Race Turbo Kits?

I just wanted to post this to check and see what kind of interest we would have in a full-race authentic turbo kits. The kit is not yet available and should hopefully be available sometime around Christmas, with any luck. If any of you know much about Honda racing and tuning, you've probably heard of full-race before. They make some of the best turbo kits around that you'll find, bar-none. The manifolds are of the highest quality and, although they are pricy, they are well worth it.






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more kits the better. However, i would be interested in a Rear mount turbo kit like the STS kits.

sts= turbo on exhaust pipe. no manifold needed and very easy DYI
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Full-race is bad *** yes, but how did you find out that they're going to be offering a kit for the D17?
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Originally Posted by lkm
more kits the better. However, i would be interested in a Rear mount turbo kit like the STS kits.

sts= turbo on exhaust pipe. no manifold needed and very easy DYI

That **** is for n00bs.
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STS Acura

It does give new way to mount a turbo...I wonder if it will pass CARB
since it is after the CAT?
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Might be interested in some of the parts there using. If I go turbo with this car I will build the kit myself. So if there is one part they sell cheaper than others that would help tremendously.
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Full-race is bad *** yes, but how did you find out that they're going to be offering a kit for the D17?
Because they are going to be prototyping it on my car sometime shortly after x-mas.

As far as the parts go, you can order parts separately but their manifolds are pricey. You pay for what you get.
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As far as the parts go, you can order parts separately but their manifolds are pricey. You pay for what you get.

get rid of pricy manifolds with an STS kit.
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^ STS is gay. You want a real turbo kit or a weak one?
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get rid of pricy manifolds with an STS kit.
don't be so fvcking gay
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Originally Posted by lkm
more kits the better. However, i would be interested in a Rear mount turbo kit like the STS kits.

sts= turbo on exhaust pipe. no manifold needed and very easy DYI
research thermal dynamics and you will learn how a turbo manifold will supply more power than that gay ****. Also, u will lag from how long the charge piping will be.
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^ indeed, it is not the flow of exhaust that spins the turbine. But more so the hot exhaust gas expanding as it enters a larger volume. Putting the turbo farther away lets the exhaust cool before reaching the turbo.

However with a huge engine (LS1, LT1 etc) you can spin a turbo by using the flow of exhaust gas. Also notice the STS turbo for the Honda/Acura section is only on an Integra Type-R. 1.8 Liters and 8000 RPMs. I doubt even that can spin the turbo a whole lot, much less a 1.7 Liter @ 6700 RPMs
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this sure looks like a great intercooler, go sts!!!
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thats water cooled intercooler? Isnt it. and I think this setup would work pretty good on our cars. I would like to see someone try to do something like STS turbo, so we can see what are the gains. And dont hate on STS. I dont care if the turbo mounts on the roof, but if im getting more HP from STS kit than from SF or some other, then i would go with STS for sure.
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Originally Posted by Armin
but if im getting more HP from STS kit than from SF or some other, then i would go with STS for sure.
Yeah.... right. You'll never see the power or the spool time from an STS kit on a Honda that you will see from a traditional kit such as mine or the SF that uses a turbo manifold.

This STS craze is stupid. The physics are wrong, it's a ghetto way to do a turbo. But if you guys want to waste your money doing it that way, just be warned, you won't see the power or quick spool that the rest of us have.
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Originally Posted by Armin
thats water cooled intercooler? Isnt it. and I think this setup would work pretty good on our cars. I would like to see someone try to do something like STS turbo, so we can see what are the gains. And dont hate on STS. I dont care if the turbo mounts on the roof, but if im getting more HP from STS kit than from SF or some other, then i would go with STS for sure.

lol........... like i said above...........do some research on thermal dynamics and understand heat transfer and how heat = energy.
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To each their own. No point in trying to convince someone that one kit is better than another. Results speak for themselves and I know of full-race's reputation and from every available kit I've seen anywhere, they are unparalleled.
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Full-Race will be expensive but well worth it. Expect the manifold to be $1000+

What do they plan on doing for fuel management?
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Full-Race are decent quality kits. Results are generally pretty good. I have a friend that has been building custom drag manifolds, frames, engines motors and chassis's for approx 25 years. He is utterly amazing! He has built some 9 sec cars......he will make one of a kind custom manifolds for Dezod, if anyone wants one. 3-4 week turnaround....you select the materials........Craftsmanship is unparalleled.
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the greater the heat=velocity means sooner spool-up time.
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We just need to see how this turbo will perform on our civics. Give it a try.
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Full-Race are decent quality kits. Results are generally pretty good. I have a friend that has been building custom drag manifolds, frames, engines motors and chassis's for approx 25 years. He is utterly amazing! He has built some 9 sec cars......he will make one of a kind custom manifolds for Dezod, if anyone wants one. 3-4 week turnaround....you select the materials........Craftsmanship is unparalleled.
Decent? I think they're some of the best quality parts available. There is a reason that they sell their manifolds for the prices they do....also a reason that they've done so well for themselves. My racing team and I have built a 9 second gsr turbo civic hatch using a full-race manifold. All in his garage.

BTW, are these the same manifolds you are using in your kit? If they are, I'd suggest posting up a timeslip or a dyno sheet showing something better than 126 corrected hp and 175 lb/ft tq before you make a comparsion that you really have no grounds to compare on. Not trying to flame you here, but I didn't start this thread to compare Dezod vs. Full-Race. I think alot of people would probably laugh at the thought of it in the first place. Again, not trying to flame but how many turbo kits have you produced and sold? Or even have available for purchase at this point?

I don't personally think your post is appropriate for this thread, but that's just my opinion. You have your own 70+ page thread to go into detail about how great your kit is and that's fine. Doesn't mean that you need to jump into everyone else's threads and talk about how awesome of parts you have/can get.

Don't take it the wrong way, I think it's great that you've taken the time to give d17 owners more options. And if I weren't going the same route I was going right now and didn't have to wait, I'd seriously consider picking up some pieces from you (which I had pm'd you about anyways.) There's already been plenty of hi-jacking in this thread and I hate to see a good thread go to **** with several pages of information that is irrelevant to the topic at hand.
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Originally Posted by Armin
We just need to see how this turbo will perform on our civics. Give it a try.
There is no specific turbo in question. It's a matter of performance of the manifold/piping. You should be able to get nearly any turbo you want and get a manifold that will have a flange for the desired model turbo. You shouldn't be limited at all with any choices you make. Once I get my motor built, timeslips and dyno charts will be coming. I'm expecting to be done with everything by mid-March if all goes well.
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all i have to say is full-race.com sh*t is AMAZING.. the bomb... killer.. what else can i say... my guy runs a kit in his hatch with gsr... WOW WOW WOW WOW
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all i have to say is full-race.com sh*t is AMAZING.. the bomb... killer.. what else can i say... my guy runs a kit in his hatch with gsr... WOW WOW WOW WOW

and if you dont believe that, just check out the vids
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and if you dont believe that, just check out the vids
Man that video with the 11 second street driven ek hatches owns me

Full-race manifolds are second to none. Shoot a PM to Geoff on HT and let him bless you with his wisdom. These guys are no joke.

They also make traction bars. I wonder if they'd be up to fab'ing some for the 7th gen also?
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Decent? I think they're some of the best quality parts available.

BTW, are these the same manifolds you are using in your kit? If they are......Not trying to flame you here, but I didn't start this thread to compare Dezod vs. Full-Race. Again, not trying to flame but how many turbo kits have you produced and sold? Or even have available for purchase at this point?

Don't take it the wrong way, I think it's great that you've taken the time to give d17 owners more options. And if I weren't going the same route I was going right now and didn't have to wait, I'd seriously consider picking up some pieces from you (which I had pm'd you about anyways.) There's already been plenty of hi-jacking in this thread and I hate to see a good thread go to **** with several pages of information that is irrelevant to the topic at hand.
I understand your passion toward this kit, but as you stated it is YOUR opinion. Everyone is entitled to their own.....

No the manifold we are using is a log style manifold. The race version is available upon request. I can not justify offering otherwise...........

No offense was taken......My kit will be available for sale in 01/05. We currently have almost 3 kits ready so far. So with a public release of 01/05.....how could I have sold any?

True about the hi-jacking......every thread has it's own degree of it......

Back to this thread...........

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That **** is for n00bs.
--whats your point?---You turboed a auto---NOOB!!!
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I would love to go on a group buy on this thing in janurary!!! (for the header!)

PLEASE PM ANDYMAN...ALSO ANYONE ELSE WHO IS INTERESTED...

that would be ****ing great if we could get a group buy. of like 5-10 people


most likely 5 at the most

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Originally Posted by lkm
more kits the better. However, i would be interested in a Rear mount turbo kit like the STS kits.

sts= turbo on exhaust pipe. no manifold needed and very easy DYI



sure may "sound" nice

but probably not practical like everyone else says
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