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Question HP wise, whats the best I/H/E combo?

at least for an ex stick. I know there isnt alot to be gotten but if one is going to go any buy anything what would be the best gainers. Just looking at top end and please dont say stock.

Does this sound correct

Header: HP Racing Header w/cat 5HP
Intake: K&N FIPKII 5HP
Exhaust: ?Thermal or Tanabe? ?3HP?

Thats about what i've seen or heard for dynos with JUST that product put on but wouldnt each give you a little bit more when used in combination with the others? I've seen dynos for the Intake and Header but not really for exhausts. Anyone do just exhaust dynos? Please feel free to correct anything but please give links to dyno results.
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Man... Our Motors From Factory Are Maxed Out So The Most Power To Expect Is 5-8hp.... Max!!!!!

The Best R...
K&n Drop In ( Same Power As Cold Air) W/ Less Bottom End Loss)
Header 4-1 Kamakazie Or The Hp Brand
Exhaust...greddy Evo2....apex'i N1....spoon N1 W/ Midpipe
For A Bit Street Exhaust.....greddy Sp2.......apex'i Ws.....spoon Street Type W/ Midpipe

I Got Or Will Get By Jan Is...
K&n Drop In
4-1 Kamakzie
Custom Test Pipe W/ O2 Simulator
Spoon Mid-pipe
Spoon Street Type Muff
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aem v2 intake, dc sports tcs cat back, and dc sports 4-1 headers
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ok does anyone have dynos or links to dynos. I'd like to post a thread that shows REAL dyno results with ONLY one part installed and tested at a time. I'll make another thread for that i guess to get more responses.
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last time i checked it was up between injen cai and k&n. someone had a big gain with the injen but i havent seen anything lately. I'm pretty sure the HP racing is #1 but what about exhausts? I havent seen any dyno results. Have you? There may only be a little to gain but if i'm gonna spend ANOTHER $500(my gf has my old stuff) i'd like to get that extra .2HP for my money.
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a drop-in filter WILL not yeild that much more HP gain.
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Originally Posted by cambo
a drop-in filter WILL not yeild that much more HP gain.
yes.. it wont yeild that much but same 4 a cold air... what u would rather spend $55.00 for a drop in or $250.00 for a cold air when u can get the same power gain w/ less low end loss??

thought so... the K&N drop...just ordered it.... part number is for the K&N is 33-2192 ordered it from Checker Auto
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actually, the KN drop in will yield like .2-.5 HP gain.

CAI will yield a 1-4 HP gain.

for .2-.5 HP, i'd rather save $55 and go buy another useless spoon cap.
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HP wise, whats the best I/H/E combo?

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You can't really say what's best without a dyno. Those mods you listed could actually rob power.
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Originally Posted by cambo
actually, the KN drop in will yield like .2-.5 HP gain.

CAI will yield a 1-4 HP gain.

for .2-.5 HP, i'd rather save $55 and go buy another useless spoon cap.
just get the K&N drop in... get some heat-rejecting tubing and run it so it will suck cold fresh air... u will get same results 4 a lower price

or get that small tube when u removed the resonator(the 1 next to the battery) and run it from the airbox to right under the cruise control box...thats what im doin..the tube is close to the wheel well where the air is cold too
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I cant believe youre saying a drop in filter does what a cold air can. I bought my cousin a TRD drop in filter for his Scion and I dont feel a thing!
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You guys crack me up. Did anyone actually test drive the car to see how much power it has? You have to throw some serious cash to make a civic fast. A cheap little filter isn't gonna do anything.
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i/h/e will give u at most 7-8 hp gain total (that's being optimistic) hahahaha..... no help... but still essentials.....
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Originally Posted by 02CIVYEX
aem v2 intake, dc sports tcs cat back, and dc sports 4-1 headers
agreed
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Originally Posted by 02CIVYEX
aem v2 intake, dc sports tcs cat back, and dc sports 4-1 headers
that is literally the WORST combination you can get.

v2 is a short ram intake for our cars, due to lack of space. you may feel gains after installing, but once your run your car around the block, your engine bay will get hot and it will pick up the hot air, which is bad for horsepower gains

dc sports 4-1 shorty header is the WORST header and there are old dyno's of it where it gains about .2 hp ... so basically NOTHING

dc sports tcs catback is the WORST catback. I has huge restrictions in the muffler itself by looping around like a rollercoaster and not to mention the whole catback is extremely heavy
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in my opinion, the BEST i/h/e system would be:

intake: a NON polished Injen cold air system with a different filter. Injen's filter sucks *** ... get one that has an opening at the top of the filter so it can suck air straight in instead of sucking from the sides.

header: HP 4-1 LONG header with NO cat ... 4-1 headers give the best top-end power, in my opinion. 4-2-1 is good for low end, midrange torque

exhaust: greddy evo 1 or 2. I've tried custom, tanabe super racing medallion and greddy evo2 ... and the greddy is the best system by far. True 2.25" piping and where the 2nd 1/2 of the axleback is, it opens up to 2.5" or so. It has a very straight through design with minimal bends, one straight-through resonator and a nice looking tip.

tanabe super racing medallion has more bends than the evo and it bottlenecked near the cat ... meaning, there's a small section that is about stock-piping's diameter and that opens up to 2.25" ...
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Simple answer with products we carry:

Injen Cold Air Intake
HP Stainless Steel exhuast (Race version with high flow cat)
Apexi N1 or World Sport II

There you go. www.truehonda.com and order them all at once and save money on shipping .
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Originally Posted by truehonda
Simple answer with products we carry:

Injen Cold Air Intake
HP Stainless Steel exhuast (Race version with high flow cat)
Apexi N1 or World Sport II

There you go. www.truehonda.com and order them all at once and save money on shipping .
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Originally Posted by aznboysrfr
that is literally the WORST combination you can get.

v2 is a short ram intake for our cars, due to lack of space. you may feel gains after installing, but once your run your car around the block, your engine bay will get hot and it will pick up the hot air, which is bad for horsepower gains

dc sports 4-1 shorty header is the WORST header and there are old dyno's of it where it gains about .2 hp ... so basically NOTHING

dc sports tcs catback is the WORST catback. I has huge restrictions in the muffler itself by looping around like a rollercoaster and not to mention the whole catback is extremely heavy
I own the V2 and I like it very much, the header and exhaust are good for keeping your low to mid range power while adding some in hte upper RPM's too... without dynos, it's really impossible to say, just a matter of preference without dynos... also, DX/LX are a different story to the EX in the header respect.
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Originally Posted by HoldDaMayo
I own the V2 and I like it very much, the header and exhaust are good for keeping your low to mid range power while adding some in hte upper RPM's too... without dynos, it's really impossible to say, just a matter of preference without dynos... also, DX/LX are a different story to the EX in the header respect.
you want v2 dyno's?

since there aren't any 7thgen civic dynos of v2's (because nobody seems to like to dyno their cars), I default will jump to rsx's. Their v2 is a similar design regarding the "in the engine bay" design of having a sri instead of a cai

http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread.php?t=149926

here is one for the Si. and not to throw you off, but the 2.5hp gain is horsepower to the flywheel, not to the wheels ... so maybe about 2whp gain.

http://sohc.vtec.net/article_files/1...2_1024x768.gif

and a link to the original thread with the v2 ... done by temple of vtec

http://www.vtec.net/articles/view-ar...&page_number=4

note how they were bashing aem's claim of 17.5 whp gain. haha.

and if you don't believe me that short ram intakes are pieces of ****, go here

I don't remember the guy's name, but one guy on clubrsx lost .2hp from the v2
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I agree. A CAI will give you more power than a drop in. A drop in doesn't improve air flow much at all cause the stock air box will never be better than an intake tube. I would rather save all the money I spent on retarded spoon junk and buy something that will give you a gain on the pavement. Looks get you girls, but if a POS owns you down, the girls won't be around long.



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