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Old Oct 29, 2004
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civic VS 5.0 who would win

ok a freind of mine at work drives an 89 mustang gt 5.0 with flowmaster exuast and he wants to race me i have i/h/e/p and heavy a$$ 17" who do you think would win.
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you would =D
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Mustang 4.9L 225 hp V8 for the 89 model. not a chance
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Im hoping this topic is a joke?
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so you think the mustang would win?????
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we are not thinkin, we know it (stang) would win
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hahahahahah i already raced it i just wanted to see what you guys woud say, and i yeah beat it by about three car lengths both times we raced. the first time we did it from a dig and umm yeah i won and the second time on our way back from a 30 roll i was in second yeah i won again. i just walked on him what you guys dont think of is 225 to the crank rwd about 165 to the wheels and about 4,000 lbs compared to 2,500lbs so what were you saying about the stang wining hahahahahaha
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heh....right.
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and it was not the driver either in fact from a dig he took of before me by just a little bit.
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hmmm. d17 can really beat a 5.0??? If its like that. we can take any car from rsx-s 200hp, gt-s 180hp, civic si / rsx - 160..............??????

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225 to the crank, 165 to the wheels?? 30% drivetrain loss? Thats quite a bit.

Also, for the weight:
LX 5.0L coupe
Curb Weight - Automatic (lb.) No data
Curb Weight - Manual (lb.) 3045

Unless its the GT convertible, which was 3333lbs. in 5spd manual trim.

Power to weight ratios, though not necessarily all-telling have him at 0.054 (using your really very low whp estime) vs your Civic, with say 110hp to the wheels with 0.044 power to weight ratio.

So, I think its safe to say that you're completely delusional.
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word to that.
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thats what i though 60hp thru powertrain is a lot.
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the mustang would smoke you like a fat man smokes a cigar.
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you guys are haters i remember about 2 months ago this other guy was talking about beating a 5.0 and every one was ******* on him for braging because the car so old and blah blah blah. so i thought i would here yuo guys doudt me then tell you that i won. just to prove my point that no matter hat you guys hate on people it goes from one extreme to the other. all because yuo have already sasdi i would loose so after i tell you that i win yuo cant admit that i might be right i was not even goign to post this kill just like i never post my kills on her because of what ever buddy says. like i beat a chevy v6 extreme by about 4 carlengths from a roll and on etime i herd you guys saying that those cars are fast and that there is no way a civic can beat one so i did not even waste my time. then i beat a nova on the highway but did not post because i knew i would get flamed for it. the point is not that i did race and beat it twice i could see getting lucky ounce but twice with the same results hmmm. and have you guys ever tryed to race one maybe if you tryed then you would see i am not so far out there. and as for hp lost look at teh new issue of 5.0 and fast fords.the average hp lost from the crank to the wheels is about 60 hp. so with all thath said dont be mad that i actually proved you guys wrong by beating a "domestic"
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5.0's are mid-high 14 second cars ... lay off the crack plz

3 car lengths ... ... do you realize that their car would have to be a high 17 second car for you to do that?
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i beat a near-stock 5.0 by a few cars, also...
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Not likely a late '80's 5.0 would get spanked by a d17, guys, I own both.
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http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forum...5&page=4&pp=15

in that thread, you'll see a couple 5.0's that run mid 14's with minimal mods

I don't know why so many people underrate mustangs ... I think they're the BEST bang for the buck cars out there ... way better than evos, srt4's, etc ... where's blainestang when u need him
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Are you sure the guy was just not racing you?

Or maybe towing a trailer? Maybe you just didn't see it, looks like a big white box on wheels, may or may not say "U-Haul" on the side?
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was it an lx or a gt ?
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i can believe that...my cousin's friend works at apexi and they dynoed the 03? GT which is supposed to put out 280HP...it ended up puttin out about 204 to the wheels
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^^ whp is very different than base hp/crank hp ... it's 260 to the crank and probably what you said above for whp
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RWD does tend to have more drivetrain loss, 25-30% is entirely possible in the difference between "RATED" crank HP and actual WHP, so yup, I believe it too.
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Originally Posted by aznboysrfr
^^ whp is very different than base hp/crank hp ... it's 260 to the crank and probably what you said above for whp
yeah i know...a lot of power loss from the crank to the wheels
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There is obvious power loss from crank to wheels, just look at what a car like a WRX dynos with all the rotational inertia its AWD system eats up.

But, that still doesn't account for the quarter mile times that people have found for various 5.0L Stangs that are somewhere in the 14s, the guy has an exhaust too, which is good I'd say for at least a few hp in an engine that big, I mean, wasn't one of the reasons that the 4.9 engine in that car put out so little hp because it had something like 4 factory installed catalytic converters?

Can someone who is more farmiliar w. domestics verify this?
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it was a 4 cyl mustang in sheeps clothing.....



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