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i have a question to those who have done camshaft work on their D17A2 engine. i basically have all the bolt-ons on my car and now i wanna change my camshaft...i;ve heard dh-racing does one for us but i would like to know how much it helped...if anyone has changed their camshaft whether its dh-racing or something else, please let me know where you got it, how much, and if it made a big change in your car....please help me out....thanks!

 
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don't buy from DH Racing, they have been banned from this site because they sell people crap and then refuse to answer the problem. Some member on this site were in the process of filing a lawsuit against DH Racing because they basically stole peoples money.

 
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If you realy want a cam and are afraid to shop around, just look up a major company in a magazine and ask them how much for a regrind. I will be posting a new dyno hopefully soon. Just need the time for dyno tuning. I am expecting awsome numbers on my stock block with built head and turbo.

 
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Right now your best bet is crower. They did a regrind for a member (but up till now he hasn't installed it as yet). What I can tell you is that they will be releasing their full line of camshafts for the D17 pretty soon. So I'll say wait a bit.

 
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and i will finally be able to go a little faster then....

 
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Well Crower's reputation speaks for itself.

 
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anybody doing valvetrain yet?...

 
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If you are serious about it let me know. I can have my vtec head PnP and regrind my cam and charge you a deposit on the head and cam. Once you install them just send me back your core parts. I have a shop here that can do the PnP and I will send the cam for regrind for higher lift and longer duration. This will let the head flow more air. You will need something to add fuel. Maybe larger injectors and VAFC2 or emanage.

 
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gotta save for a little bit, but i'll keep you posted.....pm me more info on it...can i usa a rsx fuel rail and injectors?

 
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You can use the RSX injectors. I am installing some RC 440's soon. But I am running boost. For you some rsx injectors or civic si injectors would be good for all motor. The head and cam should put you ahead of a stock si. The civic si base dyno is only around 130whp. People have made that and a little more with head work and good tuning. I think the cam would make a difference. Dont worry about springs and retainers. You can not change the rev limiter and our motors only rev to 6,800rpm.

Good luck.

 
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Guns who told you they cannot change the rev limiter in our cars?? I am sure it could be disabled or raised...

 
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Good luck bro. It is like the search for the Jimmy Hoffa.

 
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As a matter of fact don't give misleading information... The Rev Limiter has been raised in the Hondata ReFlash for the K series ECU's (which from what i understand is very similar to the D17 ECU) It can be done and will be done.

 
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hondata, i don't think has been able to do anything to our ECU's..

 
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Dude you are funny. Mis-information? You can do anything with enough time and money. I for one love my A/c and want full use of my guages. Dont throw rocks bro.. Ask someone who has done this how much it cost for parts and how much labor to get it to work. Lets not count dyno tuning time to get a K20 ECU to work on a D17. Labor is about $65 an hour and cheap dyno tuning is $125 an hour. The K-Pro is about what $1,000. Not a good choice for all motor like this guy is talking about. I can get him a PnP head and a cam for around $400. I would bet this with tuning will put out 140whp. That is cheap for 40whp. People spend that on just greddy evo catback exhaust.

 
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Ummm.since when has hondata decided to release anything for our cars? Yeah, it can be raised, but we need someone to develop a program so that it can...As of right now, hondata has no plans to make anything for the d17

 
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I didn't mean to use The K20 ECU's in our car.. what I meant was that the ECU's are similar and since it has been done on the K series then it can be done on the D17's.

 
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That is what K-pro is. K-pro has seemed to be better than other stand alone ecu's for the K-series engines.

 
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Actually - there is something that may work....It involves resoldering something in the ECU, but I won't allude to anything until I can get my hands on an ECU and possibly try it!

 
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why change the redline, our peak power drops off after 6800...

 
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The cam doe not start pulling har until 5,000rpm. It would be nice to rev to at least 8k to make use of the cam and head.

 
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hey guns.. how much u want to do the PNP for on the vtec head

 
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I will be at Speed fetish monday. On a core exchange I will say about $200. With a $200 deposit on the head. I need the vtec head back. The same on the cam but a $100 deposit on the core.

 
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dont need the cam... gona wait on that.. just the vtec head... so a total of $400 with 200 of it being returned

 
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I will let you know for sure on monday.

 
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Im really interested in your offer...so it will be $400 for the pnp Head and a regrinded cam plus a $300 deposit for the core exchange for the head and cam which i will get back? and how much do you think it will help power-wise to my car? right now i have intake, headers, exhaust, pulleys, cam gear, and VAFC2....please let me know more cuz im interested

 
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I will post up a dyno soon on my before and after for a turbo setup. Should be good. I know you are N/A. But on honda engines. Higher lift and longer duration cams are good for N/a and turbo. I willnot send it out to regrind for overlap, wich is what some people do for turbo. The head I think is not worth it without the cam. Why open up the head, unless you plan to let the valves open up larger and longer to push more air. The head will be ported not boredout like some people of recieved. Unless you plan to run 500whp you will kill the head if you open it up too much. Nothing to wild.

Somebody might want to post a thread discusion about N/A and use of ported head and cam. I have done alot of research lately and have a shop I trust like brothers to do the work.

Dont say you are interested unless you plan to have the money to do the install and dyno tune. I would prefer someone in Houston or at least wants to drive to Houston. That way I can make sure it is done right and I dont have my first customer all pissed off. I am not doing this for money. I will do it for fun. I dont have alot of friends who are not interested in working on a N/A car. I think the experience would be fun. I just ask if you are interested to take the car to Speed fetish to put on the head and cam. I will stop by the shop and help out so the labor will not kill you. ONe day in and out and I know of a cheap dyno in town.

 
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well im not trying to BS u bro....money is not a problem....i juss want to work on my internals now that i have all the bolt-ons....the problem is that im in cali and not in houston....so its cool if u dont wanna send out those parts to cali....im either juss gonna find another place for the pnp head and wait for the crower cams

 
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I would say wait on the head and do it with the cam. No point to pay for install twice. When they put the head on they will have to redo the valves, cam, etc.. No need to pay twice. If you plan on running NA it would not be cost effective to pay for the labor to do this in two steps. Do it all at once and get it over with. Also you dont need built internals for NA. I have been running fine on stock bottom end for almost a year. Catalyst and others are making srazy power on stock bottom end. No need for rods. Hell my rods are holding fine. Maybe for NA you might want higher compresion pistons. but I think good tunning and a little advanced timing you will be ok.