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Remeber when a new "crank pulley" was offered for our cars by DH. Well, I always felt that it was wrong to sell those and that they messed up the internal workings of the motor. So after research, I found this article today.

READ IT SO ALL THE CONFUSION CAN GO AWAY:

http://www.overboost.com/story.asp?id=1283

 
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cool find..Very intresting....now what do I put under my $150 dh paper weight?

 
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rolli t down the street and see if you can beat anyone??

Eddie

 
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That's what I've been saying. I did a whole post on it.

 
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Just to let everyone know here that that rubber insert that helps eliminate vibration that is found on honda pullies after 40,000 miles is always ripped and torn. Guess you guys have never done a timing belt. I would like to see the test with a crank pulley with the rubber insert damaged like almost all of them after prolonged time. I have yet to do a timing belt on a honda without it damaged. This topic will go on for the ages but I have run yes dhr pullies for 60,000 miles on my old zc and guess what no bearing oil pump damage.

 
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^^^ congratulations..........D.ickman nut hugger

 
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^^^ LMAO civic01vtec

 
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Heh - funny situation....

Let's compare the facts here. His your username is allmotorb16a - DH used to claim some BS like that too. DH recently moved to vegas, huh, that's where you're from too. Lets see, didn't DH say that his crank pulley's were the isht? Oh, that's right, you are a huge crank pulley fanatic too....

Could it possible? Is Dave's puppy Josh BACK?!?!

 
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That's probably true. He was in another post defending them as well. But hey, thanks for the info Josh. I'll get a new STOCK pulley at 60K miles when I get the belt changed.

 
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i don't think so......i believe the same nut hugger has the same sn on HT.........but i could be wrong

 
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Man, D.ickman's nuts must be huge from all those guys swinging on them all the time

 
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I'm neither Josh or Dave. I do daves ecu tuning. Lets get some valid info here on my topic of the ripped/torn gasket that helps eliminate vibration. YOu know some factory hondas lack this also. Older d15's and the ctr b16b motor. So lets hear what you scholars have to say about this is HOnda out of there mind. Oh and the y8 motor that is known for bearing failure has a larger pulley then older d motors and has the ring yet is prone to bearing damage, due to other factors not the crank pulley. Come on lets have a real discussion if you guys are so informed on the topic.

 
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interesting

 
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I'm still running the pulley on my car without any noted problems. Watch it break tomorrow, lol.

 
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That guy keeps talking about the stock dampener not working cause it's broken...well we all have new cars here. And how does that make a pulley without the dampener any better? It doesn't.

 
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gearbox where whould we be without you you smart lil man

 
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Explain why the d15,b16b's and the older accords lack the o-ring. Also according to your theory all you guys will start spinning bearings after the ring begins to break which almost always happens have only seen a couple hondas I did timing belts on have the ring intact. Didnt you also have to pay someone to install your ported head. I'm assuming your not a mechanic then right. What experince do you have besides bench building.

 
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lol. ah I wanted to post and then realized I needed to get outta here before the food fight.

 
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Lol well yes I do work on my car. I had friends put the head on because I lacked the tools. I can perfectly understand a simple service diagram. You can argue all you want about it. Even AEM knows the consequences of building a pulley with no harmonic dampener, which is why they don't have one. Bottom line is the DH pulley is crap. I would never install it, especially not with a hammer like Josh says. I know enough about cars not to pound something on my crankshaft. Call it common sense. I've seen numerous problems associated with those pulleys. Everything from blown turbo to spun bearings, to broken oil pumps. Some in as few as 15k miles. I'm one who wants the car to last.

 
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Great lets forget the dhr pulley and other similar style pullies. Why do you think some honda engines lack the ring you feel saves engines. Also like I said over time through wear and tear they will literally tear. Then will all these motors with damaged o ring begin to throw bearings. There is alot more to this then you want to think about. Lets take a company that I'm sure you have heard of like http://www.unorthodoxracing.com/index1.html. Now there product is identical to dhr unit in that it lacks the ring and counterweight you feel you need. Know a company that is based on this product for majority of it's business would be going through court cases everyday due to damaged engines and the word of mouth would put them out of business yet they continue to go strong.

 
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Gearbox I want your answer since you seem to have so many. Didnt I explain to you to port your exhaust manifold so you wouldnt have reversion. It wouldnt sursprise me that you would act like you knew that on your own. You seem like the builder of the century educate a guy who has only been building hondas for the last 7 years. Go read super street again and let us know about the new intake out for the 7th gen.

 
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Chill on gearbox dude, he never claimed to know everything. This site is supposed to be to help people, not to stir up bullsh*t. This site has been screwed by DH so much that nobodys gunna listen to you anyways. Im not saying the pully is good or bad. All Im saying is so much stuff was promissed and not delivered that its useless to defend them, its falling on deaf ears. Go somewhere else and post.

 
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I never claimed to know everything. I know what I know because of what's done to my ride. Alot of the knowledge I learned from the super techs on this site. Opto_isolator first told me about reversion, and guns walked me through on how to port match the header. Why would you think I'm the builder of the century? I only have a few motors mods and mostly other stuff. Unlike alot of other ricers, I'm a real tuner. Everything on my car is OEM. The only aftermarket piece is a vafcII, which I need to tune my a/f that Honda didn't do from the factory. Sorry, but I've never read superstreet or whatever it's called.

From your posts, you need to think about what you're saying. Sure unorthodox pulley is the same as DH. I still wouldn't run it. Companies use their reputation all the time to sell horrible products. Did you know that HKS is one of the leading filter sellers in the world? But how can this be if their foam design only filters 75% of the air going in the engine!? It's called marketing. Everyone has fallen for it at one time or another. You can't believe everything you read.

Hope that answered all your questions about me, cause you obviously don't know what I've done for this site and its members. I go and mod their car for FREE because I like helping out people. No I don't know everything, but there are alot of people willing to share information here that do know alot. There are quite a few techs here and engineers who are willing to help out as well. So if you don't have anything important to say, go somewhere else.

 
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Just for the record it think looking back, I should have done what you did gearbox. All the crap and money I put on/in my car was a waste. You are right about marketing. Its all a bunch of bull. Different exhausts, and headers, my adjustable cam gear is set back to stock so tell me what the hell I bought it for lol. If any noobs are reading this take a mental note. Dont waste you money on all the stupid, shiny aftermarket crap out there. If you are gunna spend money make it a proven, nessesary product. Do REAL mods to your car if you want it fast. Modify OEM stuff, Its not junk if it came from honda, it just needs some extra help. If you ask gearbox how much he has into his motor its probably pennies in comparison and his n/a hp is probably higher than most of us. pollish the head, its easy, knife edge the TB, modify the stock airbox, lose the exhaust resonator. Strip A/C and P/S. Those are a few of the many cheap things that actually work. Time after time I bought stuff from big companies thinking "this is gunna be the mod that does the trick" only to be let down. From everything I've seen with mine and all my friends cars, spending outrageous money on cars doesnt mean they are gunna be fast. I have spent over 2500 dollars trying different aftermarket bolt on parts only to find out that I still had not gained a thing. You know where they are now, in the scrap pile. I could have had a custom cam made from scratch and gained so much more along with many other mods for that price. Chose your mods wisely guys, its easy to burn money. A lot of these companies see dollar signs when they look at the younger crowd. They tell you what you wanna hear and play nicey-nice with you for a reason, to put your money in there pockets. Snap back to reality, that $300 chrome pipe and air filter costs them $3.00 to make and its not gunna make you run any faster than if you switched your jack and spare tire for a couple cans of fix-a-flat.

 
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So very true. I spent over 1k I bet on ricer products. I say that because these things added more noise than performance. Two intakes, a rear section exhaust, cam gear that wouldn't even fit at first, and alot of other crap that has been sold for 1/4 of what I paid. It's a scam and a joke. I wish I could go back and do it all over again. People here wonder why they add all this stuff to their car and still get smoked by a stock model civic. I guess having an auto doesn't make it easier for me.

 
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This thread has made it's point. Go debate the DH pulley elsewhere, it's been discussed a TON of times...