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ok so i got a 2001 honda civic lx that i plan on having some fun with. i have a $5000 budget and i want to know what i can do with it. i have a $2000 budget on exterior but i already know what i want to do with that. i want to tune the suspension too. so i need ideas on what i should do. should i n/a it? turbo? some kind of engine swap? what are some good struts/shocks and springs? maybe a sway bar? just list your ideas and how much itll cost. thanks imp: .

 
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oh yeah i want an autocross car, but would still like to be able to take minivans off the line .

 
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yea, go boosted y not . I hear SF makes a great turbo kit, or you can go for the rsx-s k20 engine swap, i believe it drops right in. I dont know too much about suspension, but for auto-cross i would believe B&G coilovers would be good, since they adjust to speed. If im wrong on any of the information, please correct me

edit: oh yea, the turbo kit I believe is about 2,900-3,200, k20 engine is about 4-5g's then you have to pay for labor which will probably be another 4-5g's. B&G coilovers are 890$.

 
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so basically you have only 2,000 to spend on the exterior, and 3,000 to spend on the interior, or what. well I would use that 5,000 and get a SF turbo kit, some nice rims, and a cat back exhaust, right there will spend 5,000.

 
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only performance mods you should spend money is a turbo or swap, everything else is pointless if you want a fast car. if your not gonna boost the car make it look hot.

 
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How much are swaps now? I know a couple months ago it was like 6000 or somewhere around there?

 
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How much are swaps now? I know a couple months ago it was like 6000 or somewhere around there?

 
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sorry i guess it is kinda confusing. no i have a total budget of $7000. $2000 of it i want to spend on exterior/interior. the other $5000 i want to spend on the engine.

 
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BOOST, RIMS, KIT, TINT, BE HAPPY AND TURN OFF CAPS LOCK!

 
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basically if you want to spend 5000 on the engine go with a sf turbo kit, and get some internals done, pistons, rods, etc. If you want to go with a k20 swap, you will have to save up some more money. With the 2000, use it to buy either a good body kit or some nice rims.

 
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if you want to autocross and beat minivans you will have to spend more than $5000. SF kit will cost ya $3000. That will give you a moderate boost, but there is always more you can do to your engine. Then $1300 on good true coilovers, camber kit, and alignment, $500 on strut and sway bars and you still have to get race rims and tires! a turbo will put you in Street modified autocross class, so be prepared to run with the big boys. racing on 17's isn't gonna cut it.

 
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well here wa my plan, tell me what u guys think and the prices are what i can get stuff for so dont flame on it being impossible. greddy t25 turbo kit w/intercooler:1500, coilovers:1200, spark plugs/wires:150, tru power pulleys:150, clutch:250, flywheel:250, camshaft:200, cam gear:100, valves/valve springs:400, head gasket:100, battery:150, 9:1 compression pistons (for reliability with a turbo)/rods/rings:800. anything there that would be completely pointless to get? or something that i missed? oh yeah sway bars:500, strut bar:100. total: 5850, but i am willing to postpone the exterior stuff if i need to. any ideas as to how much hp i could get if i were to turbo it at around 8-10 psi? and lets say 13-15 at the track? and what if i were to n/a the engine?

 
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oh yeah, and i forgot to say that labor costs wil be $0, conections heh heh.

 
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Greddy t25 turbo kit w/ intercooler 1500? Greddy doesnt make a turbo kit for our car, and there is no way you you will get a turbo kit for 1500, unless it is a really used off of another 01 civic, other wise you are looking to spend around 2500-3500 on a turbo kit. all the other stuff seems reasonable though.

 
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you must have really good connections to get all of that stuff installed for you for free, or your friends are just too nice, no offense, all of that would cost thousands to have installed. Ask them if they would install some stuff for me.

 
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yeah i know the greddy for 1500 is cheap,and yes i know they dont actually make one for our car, but like i said b4, connections, and yes my friends are really nice, but we kinda split things like this, i help them do stuff on their cars, they help me on my car. im actually going to do most of the work by myself, but if i need an extra pair of hands or i dont know how to do something i can get help faster then u can say "holy **** thats a fast civic". so pretty much im trying to figure out if ill get more bang for my buck with a turbo, or should i go n/a? and just how much bang would i be getting?

 
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Like I said, I would go with the sf turbo kit, alot of people on this site have it and they said it is excellent. Are you planning on buying a used greddy turbo and intercooler and custom fitting it on your car because greddy doesnt make any turbos for the d17 engines. If you have a lx, with a sf turbo kit, you lookin at running about 160 to 185 hp, now that pretty good. with internals like pistons and robs and cams, etc. you could be runnin around 215-245 hp.

 
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yeah the turbo would be used, but intercooler would be new. and yes i would be custom fitting it to my car. id like to go with the sf kit, but there would be no way i could get all the other stuff i want to do and still keep to my budget. so im just gonna go and custom rig my self one, hope it works, lol.

 
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i wish i had $7,000 to spend on my car... lease:

 
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oh yea, maybe about 110 for a shortshifter + bushings?

 
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I wish I also had $7000 to spend on my car.

 
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i wouldnt need a short shifter, im actually doing a manual swap on my car at the begining of march, and from what ive heard the throw on the new civic manuals is really short as is.

 
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ok so ive decided to save up a bit more, and do everything at once. im gonna go with the sf turbocharger kit, and redo all the internals, port/polish the head new cams, pistons, rods, crank. get some tuning done on the ecu, etc etc etc. pretty much im gonna go all out, but first need to save up a bit more. ill post pics as soon as i get things in but i dont think thatll be any too soon, unfortunately. thanks to all you guys who have been posting and giving me ideas.

 
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I dunno if anyone said it, but if your goin autocrossing you dont want the added weight in the front with the k20a swap...
i say go boosted, and get a suspension setup (konis, front rear sway, goldline or tein lowering springs, front rear strut, front/rear lower tie bar)

My guesstimate of all that comes to around 3,949

 
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There's a dude here in charlotte with the sf kit, he said he built the engine to take 13psi, plus he got the transmission rebuilt, and new clutch and everything. god how I envy him

 
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Boost it...i wish i had that 5K

 
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have you SEEN the turbo'd minivans??

 
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personally every last cent would be spent on suspension and tires...


1. set of Moton shocks $850 each
2. set of custom rate Ground controls springs. (rates to be determinied, probably have 2 different sets.... )
3. Comptech rear coaxial adjustable anti-roll bar
4. set of 15X7.5" wheels Kosei K1-TS
5. Hotchkis Camber plates or Ground controls Camber plates.
6. Set of Falken azenis tires 205/50-15 and a set of Kumho Victoracers for track days.. (note, need 2 sets of the Koseis...)
7. strut tower bar (neuspeed) lower control arm brace (spoon) rear upper tie bar (cusco)
8. rear camber kit.
9. either prothane or energy suspension Control arm bushings.


Thats all I can think of right now, basically its my fantasy STS setup....

 
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i think there are alot of things you are underestimating in price. First off too you mentioned spark plug wires. If you really knew about the engine you would know there is no spark plug wires or rotor. Secondly, I think you will be spending more than that on all those parts unless you have some serious hook up. You forgot about the time it will take for dyno tuning. You will need an SAFC or VAFC or Greddy E-Manage which alone will cost you 300 bones. You will probably need to upgrade your fuel system to handle 13-15lbs of boost, like injectors, new fuel pump, etc. There is also alignment after coilovers, camber kits, and new tires and rims. You will need more than $5000 to accomplish all that. Probably closer to $8000-10000.

As for N/A. No one has really done it. DH racing has a fully built engine but I don't know of anyone who has it. But you will need a new throttle body, intake manifold, port polish, new valves/retainers/springs, sleeved and stroked blocked, new pistons/rods, new head gasket, a good exhaust manifold (aka header), and agood exhaust.

 
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i wish i had $100 to spend on my car..let alone $5000