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Old Dec 16, 2003
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Hayame Full Coilovers or BG's?!?!

what should i get!!!!!!!!!!!!
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easiest ? ever B&G.....hayame suck *** like dropzone N1 look at the tie rod ends..ugh
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Here is a pic of the hayame's
I drove a RSX with the B&G's and really liked the ride quality
It would really depend on what you to pay.
hayamae are $650 and the B&G's are $880 and up

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here are the N!'s that are hayamae knock offs

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for comparison sake ahere is the jic magic's

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Here are the tiens

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Nice pics!! Any pics of the B&G?

Also the Hayame and B&G are alot different. The Hayame is only height adjustible. The B&G are height adjustible and don't they automatically adjust dampering with the more you drop?
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Yah, I'm looking for a the actual application for the b+g's no luck yet
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Here is the KW's

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actually the b&g's are speed adjusting... i have two springs.. here i took a pic about 10 seconds ago.. i know they're dirty.. its life.
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B&G's are self adjusting like osoboosted said, so there is no **** to turn from soft to hard. I also think they have a helper spring like the KW's. I would get Tein's over B&G's but if you want us to choose between those two, then I have to say B&G.
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B&G's also go pretty low IMO... and i like it low.. as u can see i have them on almost the lowest setting .. and my rims almost meet the fenders all around... basically the tires tuck.
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i see clutch/flywheel in the background, must be ripping your car apart!
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hell yea.. as always
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B&Gs look higher quality.


Just an Off topic question but, How much Negitive camber can you get out of the Jics?
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Originally posted by Zzyzx
B&Gs look higher quality.


Just an Off topic question but, How much Negitive camber can you get out of the Jics?

the camber has nothing to do with what suspension you choose... camber is affected by how low you choose to go.
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^^uh.. did you not see the camber plate ontop of the jics???
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^^uh.. did you not see the camber plate ontop of the jics???
didnt even see them...


i still think that ull need a camber kit to correct the camber fully tho..
the camber plates dont look like they're on the rear and thats the ONLY part that needs camber adjustment.. not the front.. i duno just my 2 cents.
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well thanks for all the replys! I like teins but the drop is still to high for me......and i think BG's would be the way to go.............is there anything else that i should know b4 buy this set up over all the others?
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Um, lets see....... I'm not looking to correct camber due to lowering, I am looking to adjust camber for autocross and track days. SO I will be running Vastly different camber then some one on the street.

For autocross I'm looking to be able to adjust to -2 to -3 deg negitive camber on the front. Track days Im looking at -1.5 to -2.5 Deg (depending on the course). The rear, I'll probably run -.5 to -2 Depending on the course.

Which is why I asked about the Jics.
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Originally posted by KeNsHiN
well thanks for all the replys! I like teins but the drop is still to high for me......and i think BG's would be the way to go.............is there anything else that i should know b4 buy this set up over all the others?
get THEM.. ive had 3 different set ups in this car.. i had Eibach sportline, ground controlls and now the B&G.... and the B&G get my vote.. i love them...

the faster i go .. the tighter the suspension gets..
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eh if you wait a little bit i'll tell you how the hayames are
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man i still don't know now!!! what is the installation time on the BG's?
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it depends... anywhere from 1.30-6 hours probably. if its your first time i'm guessing 4 hours.
the hayames should be easier since its a direct swap.
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B&G's are basically a direct swap.. all u use is the top pieces of the stock assembly
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eh if you think of it that way everythings a direct swap. with b&gs you have to take apart the stock strut while hayames you dont. as with everything else hayames offer you top mounts that were designed specifically for the coilovers.
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no it is a direct swap....


something that isnt a direct swap requires MODIFICATION to fit.
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Not direct swap. Just like tein ss. Have to use stock strut upper mounts and bearings to put it on. Which was kinda pain in the *** but whatever.I had to do it, easy swap anyway. Hayame fullcoilovers are direct swap.
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Well just to let u know i have the hayame coilovers. In my opinion they are a nice ride. I had skunk2 coilvoers with the oem shocks and that ride was hella bouncy. Depending on your budget i would say go with hayame if you lookin for a smooth ride and a low drop. But if you want a better performance then i would say go with the teins or b+g. I havent been in a ride yet with any of those coilovers so i cant tell you how they are. But I got to give credit to hayame for their coilovers because for that price they are smooth. I am goin to try to get pics up as soon as possible for you guys though. I am suppose to meet up with Drew(DizWikidCivic) and he going to take some pics for me. I hope sometime this weekend. SO keep you guys posted.
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the easiest way to define direct swap (bolt-on) is if you could install it out of the box. teins and b&g are not by that definition because they are not complete and with 02+ models you need 01 parts.
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