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Old Sep 26, 2003
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Question nice sounding cat-back thats good for turbo?

Hey all,

Im planning out what im going to spend on my car, and it looks like the SF turbo kit. I plan to get that, the Random Technology high-flow catalytic converter, and a new cat-back exhaust. The only problem is, there are so many of them. I want a full cat-back, not just a new muffler, but I want one that sounds good. Not too quiet, but not extremely ricer-like, if you know what I mean. Also, I am very interested in the HP gains, so that is important too. What do you recommend? I'm just looking for people opinions on what would be the best, knowing my concerns.

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2.5" piping with a apexi n1 muffler
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alright...where would I get the piping? I know a custom shop that could do it, but is there a pre-made one I could buy for a lot cheaper?
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dunno if there is a premade 2.5" catback for our cars... if your going turbo please do use at least 2.5"

how much is the muffler shop going to charge you to custom pipe it anyways? cause the premade ones are ~500 (good ones at least)
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u shouldn't use anything smaller than 2.5"? wat is the greddy evo in comparison with apexi n1?
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It's $650 with piping, labor, muffler, and a lifetime warranty.
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I would say Thermal stealth is loud but low toned with good gains. I've also heard Greddy was nice as well.
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greddy is 2.36" to 2.75" (60-70 mm)... i dont know what the apex'i is...
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the custom place, that is
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also is there a concern of legality with any of these?
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no concerns of legality in VA that i know of. If i were you i'd go with the custom place, that lifetime warrenty sounds pretty good for that ~150 extra your spending.
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sweet, i think i will. Thats the estimate on their website; they closed a half hour ago, but I will call tomorrow and get a better estimate.
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Although, I have been thinking and looking around lately. I have heard that the Tsudo N1 is all right, and its only $299. For $300, as compared to the $650, it cant be that bad, right?
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greddy evo aint too quiet. what trim do you have (lx, ex..etc)
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i have a 2002 EX coupe, manual if it matters. I dont want it to be too quiet...just not obnoxious, as i've heard many exhaust systems are.
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Tanabe!!!
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which is better in sound and hp? Tanbe rspec or greddy evo? or if neither? which 1 owns them hehe
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I wouldnt go with 2.5 inch piping, I would go with 2.25 inch piping, anything higher, you will lose horsepower, besides our car is a 4 cylinder, SOHC, why would you need 2.5 piping, unless you are running a turbo, than that would be ok, get 2.25 inch.
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i am going to run a turbo...check the sig. So I guess my final question is: is getting custom exhaust piping to an a'pexi n1 muffler really worth $650 (with lifetime warranty), when I could get a tsudo n1 cat-back for $300 (with 1 year warranty)?
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the n1, atleast the one i heard on our vics, was VERY loud, apexi n1's have some serious dB's to em... i love the tanabe myself, SRM, but the greddy sounds very nice on our cars, and i've heard from many people that have the SF kit that the tanabe is the best exhaust w/ it, restricts the least and sounds the best...

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OK. I think im going to go for the Tanabe Hyper Medallion. It seems to be good quality, people here say its has good HP gains and sound, and it states that it is designed for mid-range power, which is really what I want since this is for my fun-to-drive-around-town car.
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i just listened to the tanabe rspec on the exhaust clips, and it sounds real nice. Where can I buy the rspec? I have only been able to find the Hyper Medallion, Racing Medallion, and Ultra Medallion.
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although u're boosting.. I still dont see the need for 2.5 inch.

does it really flow that much more? i mean.. a 7-8 lb boost is probably the max for a stock d17... so 2.5 inch isn't necessary... a 2.25 will do.

although, I recommend RS*R Exmag (street) or Apexi WS.

both are 60mm pipping.. = 2.368 inches

www.rs-r.com

u can see pics of the exhaust system for our car there.

personally one of my favorites.

its 5 bills though.

thats expensive.

a good muffler and cheaper custom pipping will do too.

but you want tasteful tuned sound. go with the RS*R. they spent some time working on it.

oh yeah. the neuspeed cat-back is tasteful in tip size and exhaust tone/volume too.

but thats expensive too.

Apexi WS is cheap. $300-400 shipped.
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how would I know what diameter piping the different cat-back systems come with? THe ones im looking at right now are the tanabe series (hyper medallion mainly), and the rs-r.
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usually on the web site of the dealer, it will tell you the mm piping... but you can just ask around, people on here know... tanabe r sped (super racing medallion) is definitely the way to go for turbo's, and circa-x has a great deal on it... like 530 shipped or somethin, very good deal... and tornactive.com also has it for cheap i assume... the hyper medallion won't have the same sound.... i'd suggest super racing for turbo
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the super medallion is actually cheaper, but I was attracted to the hyper because it said it was built for medium-range power, and thats what I'll mainly be using. Would it be a lot better to get the super, since it says its for high-end power, and I dont use high-end that much (right now at least )?
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if you get your turbo like you say you are, i would suggest the super... because you know you're going to use your high end power a lot... i think the super is more open to air flow and has less back pressure, which is what you want for a turbo... the hyper also doesn't look as good, but it just depends what you want.... for best performance gains, sound, and quality, super it...
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sounds like super is it for me...although the rs-r looks pretty good too, for about the same price. I am very concerned with power gains and sound, but dont really care about appearance (i going for a sleeper...partially because I think it will be cool and mainly because i'm poor ). I really like the sound of the tanabe rspec; on the "exhaust clips" sticky, it sounds like it really growls throughout the entire rpm range, but its not shrill and never whines. THats exactly what I want.
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why get a apexi N1 muffler and custom piping for $650 when you can get the full cat back for $450. that includes the piping and muffler.
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the n1 sound is not what you want, its also not as good quality as tanabe... i don't personally like apexi, its wayyyyyyyyy too ricey, gets annoying after about 5 minutes...
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