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aem ems is a standalone unit if you use it you dotn need the stock ecu, its not a piggy back system.
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Originally Posted by hwt101
aem ems is a standalone unit if you use it you dotn need the stock ecu, its not a piggy back system.
thank you thats what i need to know
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no more N/A 1988?
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Originally Posted by 02BLKCIVIC
no more N/A 1988?
NOt sure i just want to make power i want like what supermex and andy have over 300 horsepower thats what i want. Turbo is a beautiful thing

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guess you are going turbo then..
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Originally Posted by XSRCivic
guess you are going turbo then..
like i said not sure more then most likely but since i have the pistons and everything else to go N/A might as well do it
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You'll still need the stock ECU when using the AEM EMS for mutiplex functions (A/C lights etc.)
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Originally Posted by supermex
You'll still need the stock ECU when using the AEM EMS for mutiplex functions (A/C lights etc.)
thats good to know. I know supermex u have on so i trust u
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What kind of clutch would u use for N/A? Stage 2 or Stage 3
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Why even bother with a N/A build if your shooting for 300hp? It won't be done EVER. I'm sorry but it won't. You can say anything you want but no matter what **** you do to this motor, it won't happen. You might as well build for turbo.
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Originally Posted by drew22mader
Why even bother with a N/A build if your shooting for 300hp? It won't be done EVER. I'm sorry but it won't. You can say anything you want but no matter what **** you do to this motor, it won't happen. You might as well build for turbo.
first off i didnt say i was shooting for 300 N/A i said i was inspired to go TURBO becasue of supermex and andy. Maybe read before you post. If i go N/A its going to be 200 horsepower which will happen.
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no N/a then...

eather way good luck to you...
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Originally Posted by Civicman1988
first off i didnt say i was shooting for 300 N/A i said i was inspired to go TURBO becasue of supermex and andy. Maybe read before you post. If i go N/A its going to be 200 horsepower which will happen.
I did read, you said you would like 300hp as well like andy and supermex. But you never said you were going to turbo soooo....... I'll still stick to my statement and say you won't make 200hp on a N/A build. You can say you will till your blue in the face, but until i see it, i say it's not gonna happen. I don't see how your gonna improve 80-100 hp depending on the model.
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Originally Posted by drew22mader
I did read, you said you would like 300hp as well like andy and supermex. But you never said you were going to turbo soooo....... I'll still stick to my statement and say you won't make 200hp on a N/A build. You can say you will till your blue in the face, but until i see it, i say it's not gonna happen. I don't see how your gonna improve 80-100 hp depending on the model.


Originally Posted by Civicman1988
OK so theres more now since i am doing an auto to manual swap will i need a manual ecu if i get the AEM program to tune it? Also might be selling my pistons any interested i am going turbo so i am getting a a different compression.

Read man......
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And logan, he also said, "If i go N/A its going to be 200 horsepower which will happen."

Try your hardest Logan.
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Originally Posted by drew22mader
And logan, he also said, "If i go N/A its going to be 200 horsepower which will happen."

Try your hardest Logan.

Whatever man..............Happy new year ;-)
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Whatever man..............Happy new year ;-)
Happy New Year to you. At least we agree on something, Sunkist_Em2 is the biggest homo. Ask him about his rap video and rap song that his Team SSP made. HAHAHA go to Team SSP and download and listen to the gayness.
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Originally Posted by drew22mader
I did read, you said you would like 300hp as well like andy and supermex. But you never said you were going to turbo soooo....... I'll still stick to my statement and say you won't make 200hp on a N/A build. You can say you will till your blue in the face, but until i see it, i say it's not gonna happen. I don't see how your gonna improve 80-100 hp depending on the model.
I am glad u have no faith and when i do hit it i am going to throw those numbers right in ur face. I am glad u stuck with ur statement even though i am right and logan proved it
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Originally Posted by drew22mader
Happy New Year to you. At least we agree on something, Sunkist_Em2 is the biggest homo. Ask him about his rap video and rap song that his Team SSP made. HAHAHA go to Team SSP and download and listen to the gayness.
I agree:
Sunkist, sspm2, siclvic whatever he is calling himself nowdays is the biggest homo.
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Originally Posted by Civicman1988
I am glad u have no faith and when i do hit it i am going to throw those numbers right in ur face. I am glad u stuck with ur statement even though i am right and logan proved it
Thats fine you do that. I'll believe it when i see it. Plz logan proved what? That you said your still thinking about hitting 200 n/a? Exactly. So stop talking about how your gonna hit 200 and do it. 200 N/A. I've already talked to friends and they laughed when they heard 200 from our motors without nitrous or turbo. Sorry
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Haha. This thread is getting funny. Drew, this guy doesn't make sense on a lot of his post. I read it the same way you did. Oh, I just heard that song, homo's is correct.
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Originally Posted by SEN_ONE
Haha. This thread is getting funny. Drew, this guy doesn't make sense on a lot of his post. I read it the same way you did. Oh, I just heard that song, homo's is correct.
I try to make points.I dont give a **** if they make sense or not to u they make sense to me. You and ur buddy Drew are so full of **** its not even funny. How do u know if its not possible if u havent even tried it at least i am trying it and have faith in myself and other members have faith in me.
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Originally Posted by Civicman1988
I try to make points.I dont give a **** if they make sense or not to u they make sense to me. You and ur buddy Drew are so full of **** its not even funny. How do u know if its not possible if u havent even tried it at least i am trying it and have faith in myself and other members have faith in me.

What ever you decide, either n/a or boost, good luck on your project Civicman.
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What ever you decide, either n/a or boost, good luck on your project Civicman.

thanks man i appericate it at least some members on here have faith
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Dude, i have nothing against you. I'm just trying to get your to see it's not worth building your engine for N/A. Our engines don't like it. I would rather see you put hard work into the turbo and get results out man. I think you'd have a better time with it and would like the results alot better. W/e you do, i know you won't half *** it. Just trying to help earlier with the rods deal. W/e you do i back you for it.
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Originally Posted by drew22mader
Dude, i have nothing against you. I'm just trying to get your to see it's not worth building your engine for N/A. Our engines don't like it. I would rather see you put hard work into the turbo and get results out man. I think you'd have a better time with it and would like the results alot better. W/e you do, i know you won't half *** it. Just trying to help earlier with the rods deal. W/e you do i back you for it.
sorry for blowing up in u like that i understand where ur coming from. I just want to do something that no one has done before u know what i mean
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man, this thread went downhill fast... it's always the people with the least experience on the topic with the most negative comments.

as for the aem ems, if you read their website, it says you need to retain your factory ecu so that the multiplex functions will work, including your immobilizer, if youre doing an a/t to m/t ecu swap, you'll also have to do the immobilizer flash. just thought you might want to add that to your costs.
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man, this thread went downhill fast... it's always the people with the least experience on the topic with the most negative comments.

as for the aem ems, if you read their website, it says you need to retain your factory ecu so that the multiplex functions will work, including your immobilizer, if youre doing an a/t to m/t ecu swap, you'll also have to do the immobilizer flash. just thought you might want to add that to your costs.
so i have to get teh ecu flased at the dealership? What do u think of putting 80mm pistons instead of 76mm
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There's no way you'll get a 1/4" overbore in there... there isn't anywhere near that kind of room between cylinders. If you're boosting it, stick with 75s, or if you have to overbore the block to clean up the walls, go for the standard .5mm rebuild overbore. You'll want as much sleeve in there as you can keep.

I think now you gotta slow down and pick a direction before you go any further. You're gonna want to break in the new motor without boost at first anyways, get the rings to seat and let the bearings break in some before you beat on it.
Slow down... one piece at a time here. If you're going boost, blow a stock motor and build a second one. Get a feel for it (and test your tuner's competency) before you go too insane and pop a built motor that you threw an assload of money into.
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There's no way you'll get a 1/4" overbore in there... there isn't anywhere near that kind of room between cylinders. If you're boosting it, stick with 75s, or if you have to overbore the block to clean up the walls, go for the standard .5mm rebuild overbore. You'll want as much sleeve in there as you can keep.

I think now you gotta slow down and pick a direction before you go any further. You're gonna want to break in the new motor without boost at first anyways, get the rings to seat and let the bearings break in some before you beat on it.
Slow down... one piece at a time here. If you're going boost, blow a stock motor and build a second one. Get a feel for it (and test your tuner's competency) before you go too insane and pop a built motor that you threw an assload of money into.

This is sooooooo true.


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