Civic Lx-T vs 2 SRT4's and Lancer
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This is simmalar to the mentality of "ricers" that come out to autocross with us. THey thing that just because they have a supposedly superior car they will whoop butt on us civic drivers. well out here the fastest STS driver/car is an 86 Honda Civic Si 
. SO when the "Ricers" show up with their Integras, GTis, SRT-4s (Yes I konw they arn't classed for STS) RSXs and RSX-Ss and get beaten by a car thats got a whoping 91 hp@5500 RPM they get embaresed and never come back. Its sad really. oh well, I guess some people will never learn.
. SO when the "Ricers" show up with their Integras, GTis, SRT-4s (Yes I konw they arn't classed for STS) RSXs and RSX-Ss and get beaten by a car thats got a whoping 91 hp@5500 RPM they get embaresed and never come back. Its sad really. oh well, I guess some people will never learn. 
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Rep Power: 400 Originally posted by Rsxtc
Here's a thread about the civic being faster than a 240sx. http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...threadid=98451
It's just funny how one person posts about killing an obviously faster car, then the rest (majority) of the other members who read the post are actually convinced that the civic is faster.
Here's a thread about the civic being faster than a 240sx. http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...threadid=98451
It's just funny how one person posts about killing an obviously faster car, then the rest (majority) of the other members who read the post are actually convinced that the civic is faster.
Hmm... last time I checked a stock or near stock 240SX was a 16 second car. So how is that faster than a 16 second civic? And by the way, on a roll, the civic will pull, just in case you're wondering. Equal drivers the civic will trap a bit higher than a 240sx. Rear wheel drive launch is what gets the car it's 16 second 1/4 mile and makes it an even runner with the civic. But go from a roll, and the 240sx loses the RWD advantage, and the civic will slowly pull.
Care for more education? Or are you going to admit you were wrong.
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Nope.
Fanboys like you never cease to amaze me. Bye-bye!
Nope.
Fanboys like you never cease to amaze me. Bye-bye!
This thread was about a turbo-ed LX beating a SRT-4 and a Lancer Evo. Most of the people who read this thread were under the impression that the LX engine has more potential/is faster than the srt-4/evo.
My point was that the d17 isn't in the same league as the 4g63, k20, ka24de, etc, no matter what some of you may believe.
BTW, Zzyzx: Autocrossing is 90% driver. Are you saying that all of us should be driving 91hp civics since it's a better, faster car?
My point was that the d17 isn't in the same league as the 4g63, k20, ka24de, etc, no matter what some of you may believe.
BTW, Zzyzx: Autocrossing is 90% driver. Are you saying that all of us should be driving 91hp civics since it's a better, faster car?
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Rep Power: 400 No one I saw here ever said the D17 had more potential than the SRT4. A car from the factory turbo'd, has tons of potential.
However, take a D17 N/A engine, and turbo it... and it now has probably just as much potential as the SRT4 engine. In fact, for every pound of boost, the D17 will make more hp because of the higher compression. Unless of course you change the compression on the neon engine.
However, take a D17 N/A engine, and turbo it... and it now has probably just as much potential as the SRT4 engine. In fact, for every pound of boost, the D17 will make more hp because of the higher compression. Unless of course you change the compression on the neon engine.
S2000man01: The civic EX is a high 16 second car. The 240sx is a low 16 second car. Comparing those 2 is like saying the RSX-S compared to the RSX base is a driver's race.
Two of my close friends each have a 240sx and a 2k1 EX. They ALWAYS race each other. It is NOT a driver's race. Please stop with the ricer facts because you obviously don't know the difference between the 240 and the civic.
BTW, what have you proven me wrong in my arguments?
Two of my close friends each have a 240sx and a 2k1 EX. They ALWAYS race each other. It is NOT a driver's race. Please stop with the ricer facts because you obviously don't know the difference between the 240 and the civic.
BTW, what have you proven me wrong in my arguments?
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Rep Power: 375 I thought that lower compression made more power. I'm not trying to get into the middle of the arguing, but Thats what I've been told. Hence the reason that lower compression cars are better to boost. ????????
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Rep Power: 0 Originally posted by Jodster
I thought that lower compression made more power. I'm not trying to get into the middle of the arguing, but Thats what I've been told. Hence the reason that lower compression cars are better to boost. ????????
I thought that lower compression made more power. I'm not trying to get into the middle of the arguing, but Thats what I've been told. Hence the reason that lower compression cars are better to boost. ????????
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Rep Power: 375 Originally posted by Bartkat
They're safer to boost because the strain on the engine is addative.
They're safer to boost because the strain on the engine is addative.
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S2000man01: The civic EX is a high 16 second car. The 240sx is a low 16 second car. Comparing those 2 is like saying the RSX-S compared to the RSX base is a driver's race.
Two of my close friends each have a 240sx and a 2k1 EX. They ALWAYS race each other. It is NOT a driver's race. Please stop with the ricer facts because you obviously don't know the difference between the 240 and the civic.
BTW, what have you proven me wrong in my arguments?
S2000man01: The civic EX is a high 16 second car. The 240sx is a low 16 second car. Comparing those 2 is like saying the RSX-S compared to the RSX base is a driver's race.
Two of my close friends each have a 240sx and a 2k1 EX. They ALWAYS race each other. It is NOT a driver's race. Please stop with the ricer facts because you obviously don't know the difference between the 240 and the civic.
BTW, what have you proven me wrong in my arguments?
And when have I proven you wrong? Holy fack dude, go back and read.
and your friend with the civic needs to learn to drive.
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Ok, got it. So, since it is safer, than doesn't that mean that you can push more boost?
Ok, got it. So, since it is safer, than doesn't that mean that you can push more boost?
I think that's why people put thicker head gaskets to run boost, as that lowers compression some.
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Rep Power: 400 Originally posted by Bartkat
I think you can run more boost if you lower the compression. It's one of those trade offs, but I think you can end up with more power with lower compressiion and higher boost. Most of the big supercharged engines have lower compression.
I think that's why people put thicker head gaskets to run boost, as that lowers compression some.
I think you can run more boost if you lower the compression. It's one of those trade offs, but I think you can end up with more power with lower compressiion and higher boost. Most of the big supercharged engines have lower compression.
I think that's why people put thicker head gaskets to run boost, as that lowers compression some.
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Rep Power: 0 What happens when running a high compression ratio with a turbo?
There are many considerations that might be overlooked when turbocharging an engine that was not originally designed for one. The turbo is generally robust to higher engine compression ratios. However, peak cylinder pressures are more easily reached with forced induction, and the risk of blowing a head gasket, or even fatiguing the head bolts increases. If compression ratios are too high for the turbocharged application, teams might also encounter temperature related issues. These include: an overheated engine, overheated turbine housing, coking of oil, an incomplete combustion process, poor exhaust performance, and other heat-induced engine problems.
http://www.egarrett.com/about_garrett/faq.jsp
There are many considerations that might be overlooked when turbocharging an engine that was not originally designed for one. The turbo is generally robust to higher engine compression ratios. However, peak cylinder pressures are more easily reached with forced induction, and the risk of blowing a head gasket, or even fatiguing the head bolts increases. If compression ratios are too high for the turbocharged application, teams might also encounter temperature related issues. These include: an overheated engine, overheated turbine housing, coking of oil, an incomplete combustion process, poor exhaust performance, and other heat-induced engine problems.
http://www.egarrett.com/about_garrett/faq.jsp
Originally posted by S2000man01
Really? So when I ran a 16.1 in a stock EX..... that was what? Oh and Hwoody here had a vidoetaped run of a 15.8 STOCK. Civic is NOT a high 16 second car. It's low low 16's or 16 flat. People here hit low 16's often enough. So who's flinging the ricer facts? Congratu****inlations. You are one of the most ignorant people I've ever met.
Really? So when I ran a 16.1 in a stock EX..... that was what? Oh and Hwoody here had a vidoetaped run of a 15.8 STOCK. Civic is NOT a high 16 second car. It's low low 16's or 16 flat. People here hit low 16's often enough. So who's flinging the ricer facts? Congratu****inlations. You are one of the most ignorant people I've ever met.
Yep, I run low 16s consistantly. RSXTC, where in my post did I say I "killed" that 240sx? Pulling slowly is hardly killing him. I agree that the 240sx is a superior car in many ways, but stock, civics can pull. It is a shame that a good RSX went to waste on such an ignorant driver. Please excuse my further inflammation of this thread.
Would you care to explain how you came to the conclusion that I'm an ignorant driver? My definition of a "Kill" is when one car beats another. And stock for stock, the civic will not pull on the 240. I'm not going to argue about this anymore. Believe what you want to believe.
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Rep Power: 0 Originally posted by Rsxtc
Would you care to explain how you came to the conclusion that I'm an ignorant driver? My definition of a "Kill" is when one car beats another. And stock for stock, the civic will not pull on the 240. I'm not going to argue about this anymore. Believe what you want to believe.
Would you care to explain how you came to the conclusion that I'm an ignorant driver? My definition of a "Kill" is when one car beats another. And stock for stock, the civic will not pull on the 240. I'm not going to argue about this anymore. Believe what you want to believe.
Lay off ths sauce or whatever it is you're smoking and pay attention.
Ain't nobody here got any reason to lie to you, son. So please make up your mind. You're either in or out of this discussion. No more cheating.
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I'm for pretty sure that my engine has more potential than yours, Rsxtc. Even a stage 1 turbo is going to go 300 to 340 WHP.
I'm for pretty sure that my engine has more potential than yours, Rsxtc. Even a stage 1 turbo is going to go 300 to 340 WHP.
The d-series has more potential than the K-series? Hahhahaha
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Rep Power: 0 Originally posted by Rsxtc
This right here is exactly my point! You d17 owners should really know your place in the food chain.
The d-series has more potential than the K-series? Hahhahaha
This right here is exactly my point! You d17 owners should really know your place in the food chain.
The d-series has more potential than the K-series? Hahhahaha
Why are you still such an ignorang bastard?
How exactly am I ignorant? Failing to believe you guys that the d17 is one of the most potent inline 4 engines ever produced?
After all, you did state that the D-series has more potential than the K-series.
After all, you did state that the D-series has more potential than the K-series.
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How exactly am I ignorant? Failing to believe you guys that the d17 is one of the most potent inline 4 engines ever produced?
After all, you did state that the D-series has more potential than the K-series.
How exactly am I ignorant? Failing to believe you guys that the d17 is one of the most potent inline 4 engines ever produced?
After all, you did state that the D-series has more potential than the K-series.
Now I'll give you a link for turbo kits produced for my car.
http://www.cybernationmotorsports.com/
Go ahead and believe what the manufacturers want you to believe
http://www.cybernationmotorsports.com/
Go ahead and believe what the manufacturers want you to believe
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Rep Power: 0 I've been out on my own for over 45 years now. I've been around the world 5 or 6 times. I''ve met some really stupid people in my travels.
But you, sonny boy, are the dumbest person I have ever met, anywhere.
But you, sonny boy, are the dumbest person I have ever met, anywhere.
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Rep Power: 0 Originally posted by Rsxtc
Now I'll give you a link for turbo kits produced for my car.
http://www.cybernationmotorsports.com/
Go ahead and believe what the manufacturers want you to believe
Now I'll give you a link for turbo kits produced for my car.
http://www.cybernationmotorsports.com/
Go ahead and believe what the manufacturers want you to believe
