freestyle

I grabbed my digital camera on the way to work and I recorded my run from the ramp red light getting onto a freeway. I have LX Sedan. I could not pay attention that much to the tachometer because I was holding the camera close to it. So all my shifts were early at around 6000rpm. I replayed it on my computer a few times and measured the times. Here it is:

0-30: 2.79sec
0-40: 4.76sec
0-50: 6.44sec
0-60: 9.28sec

youtube link:
YouTube - Almir: 2001 Honda Civic LX 5MT 0 to 60

Next time I will try shifting at redline and I should easily get into high 8s for 0-60 time and I would reach the 60mph in 2nd gear instead of 3rd gear.
I looked at the Car And Driver test runs and they got 8.88sec.

The acceleration felt pretty good.

When I decide to buy a new car in a year or two, I don't know what I would get. I would like to get an automatic with tiptronic, but what could I get in the same budget as Civic and still have the same performance as with my 5MT Civic.

Freestyle.
P.S. The only mods I have are K&N drop-in filter and Dynomax UltraFlo exhaust

03-Acura-1.7-EL

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Looks on par for a Coupe.
Good, your numbers give you start point. After you modify you car further, you'll be able to compare results.

freestyle

I wish I got the same data before I put the K&N filter and Dynomax exhaust. I am assuming that my modifications produce only 3-5hp together.

EMK20a2

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Yes looking comparing the two would have told you SOMETHING, this tells you or anyone else NOTHING because the speedo is not exact. With the error in a speedo the best you could ever even hope to do is + or - a second for a zero to xx mph. Nice try though

pon55

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sorry,hadda do it

CuRiOuSfIsH

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not likely.............

mr.rowdy

Thats cool you figured all that. Now we'll see how much better you get

doubledeuce2k2

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did you bother to take away any advantage the ramp was giving you? if it's not over a flat surface, those #'s are skewed

chawski

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They actually do that from the factory on purpose, due to the popularity of putting larger wheels on

03-Acura-1.7-EL

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lol...You arent serious, right?

Larger diamer of the rim, but overall wheel diamer (including tire) should remain more/less the same. e.g correct 17" replacement for stock EX wheel should be 205/45/17.

freestyle

To answer the guy that said the ramp is downhill. This actually starts of a bit uphill and then it gets flat.

pon55

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It varies + or -. They always have and probably will.

EMK20a2

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Not sure who told you that, but it is wrong. And putting on larger wheels is not popular at all atleast not on a civic. If any variation from stock diameter, most people like myself enjoy the benifit of a slightly smaller diameter wheel to shorten the gearing up a bit.

EMK20a2

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This is correct, for a civic and most everyother car (I am sure there is an exception) the speedo is + or -, 5-8% sometimes even more.

pon55

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Yup
I thought I was the omly one that enjoyed 40 series 16" low gearing! FTW

freestyle

I added the youtube link in the original message and here it is in this reply:

YouTube - Almir: 2001 Honda Civic LX 5MT 0 to 60

EMK20a2

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And the difference 100 more hp makes, LOL
YouTube - EM2 Kswap civic from a dig

Mine was from a bit of a different angle than yours, so it reads a couple of mph slow especially after 70-80. I will have to try to do it myself and get the angle that you have.

freestyle

wow. that turbocharged civic is so quick. it must be faster than the new Si.

EMK20a2

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It is not boosted, and yes it is a good bit faster than the new Si

pon55

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Dayum, that was a nice,respectable answer
BTW-awsome vid, car rules

ncirom2003

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people have spent 2grand on bolt-ons, tuning, special tricks..... and only made about 10 hp and its all proven with pics and dyno's.
also i think stock 0-60 is something like 305904.4 seconds. but its more than 10 ill tell ya that. it runs a 1/4 mi. at 80mph, in about 17 seconds, i doubt the last 20 mph takes 7 seconds.
wanna be fast? get a capable car, its the first step in the right direction. take it from someone who spent 5 grand on a turbo and motor work (just parts, all labor was me) and the car would run 14.0 best pushin its limits. civics just arent worth pouring money into.
if you like the looks and sound of exhaust and intake go for it, but dont waste your money on any more stuff to try and make power or go fast. just do suspension stuff and have fun throwing it into turns.

EMK20a2

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Kind of funny because I bet that I have spent less $ than that 03 350z and would walk on it all day with my civic that was not worth spending $ on

ncirom2003

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1st off
21k for 350z
7thgens avg value about 12k + avg of 8-12k spent on a PROPER k-swap id say puts it about even. (but im driving a 2 seater sports car with torque, your driving a civic with a nice motor thrown in it.) plus my car has warranty and none of the daily headaches with a modded car (although you probably dont have many).

2nd
i said its not worth spending money on things like boltons and ****.

3rd
if you were around here i would gladly race you, own you off the line, own you mid-range, and be a good amount in front of you before your top-end power started doing anything. dont get me wrong i liek honda's more than any other car and am a true honda enthusiast....but id rather have this car than yours.

4th, ill give you 2000 dollars and see what you can do with what youve got now. ill see what i can do, and ill tell you right now 150 shot of nitrous, drag radials, tune. proven to bring this car into high 11's. you? youll get walked again.

ncirom2003

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Video - Tanna B. 02 Civic K20a2 all motor - Honda
oooh look what i found lol, ITB's on a k20 and it runs highish 13's.
350z's run an average of 13.7-14.2 depending on driver and conditions, ive got a few basic breather mods and not afraid to power shift so id say im in the high 13's.

pon55

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You forgot that 350s are chick magnets

EMK20a2

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You have obviously not raced a K-swap civic, or atleast not one with the mods that I have LOL . The last 350z I raced maybe edged out a bit off of the line, but after that I pulled to a 4-car win by 90-100, three times in a row, it does not stand a chance. Don't get me wrong they are great cars, heck I almost bought one, then I drove an S2000 and to be honest the 350z felt like a bit of a pooch after that. I did not come in here trying to bench race you over the web, but you did start bashing on how putting money (as in any type of $ swap, boost, etc.) was a waste for civic.

As for a 150 shot of nitrous you have obviously never seen what a **** load of nitrous and a VQ35 equals. Does anyone remembers the video of the kid with the 350z and a **** load of nitrous who threw a rod and puked the engine out on the track?? rep points to anyone who post it up. You are right about the times, he was running low 12s high 11s, but the engine did not last long.

Anyway I am seriously not trying to start ****, just remember this is a civic forum, not a 350z forum. I am sure that you 350z is a bad a$$ car, I must admit that everytime one drives by I sneak a small peak.

freestyle

All I can say to these arguements, the modifications and power are really subjective thing at our level of driving/racing. There is always something better and faster and also something slower. It is up to you to choose a car that fits you and do modifications if any. I personally prefer buying a Civic for cheap and modify it because I enjoy the actual process of modifications more than the final product............don't get me wrong.....I love the final product, but doing and researching something a modifying it part by part satisfies me. Everybody is different. My wife is driving a brand new Pilot and she tells me to buy a new Accord and settle down.............I tell her that I will keep the Civic and spend some money on it and it will still be twice as cheaper than buying a new Accord.

my 2 cents.

Freestyle.

ncirom2003

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there arent any k-swapped civics i know of around my area other than maybe a few that are in eg's and fully stripped for drag racing. (not much auto-x around unfortunately). and as much as you say it i just wont believe that youd pull on me anything close to that hard. especially if you had a stock k20, but even with 201whp, with so little torque you better launch that thing like crazy.
as for it being 350z forum, your the one who broguht my car into this, i never mentioned it, just that i regretted spending so much money on a civic just to have a moderately quick civic that would still get owned by things like my 350z and any s2k (which i also almost bought and after sitting in one recently kinda wish i did).
as for the nitrous, im well aware of the capabilities of this engine, with a good tune 150 shot is perfectly fine. and i know the video your talking about, that guy had a 325 shot from what ive heard and it normally ran alot faster, now its rebuilt and into the 8's with a few more mods on it. they ran that much nitrous purposely to blow the motor cus they wanted to build it for 8's.
and id only use it at the track which is maybe a few days a month a few months a year that i go.

EMK20a2

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It is not a stock K20 it is a K20 with a race header (no catt), 2.5" exhaust, Intake, Kpro, and it is dyno tuned by an expert in tuning. The car itself has had around 100lbs shaved off of the weight (the K20 is a bit heavier so it is pretty close to a wash and still weights the stock 2600lbs). You have to remember the 151trq is wheel torque. To give you an idea I watched a stock 350z dyno at around 225whp and 210trq on this same dyno.

Yes you are right and I will admit that it was wrong by doing it.

ncirom2003

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so your still gonna say that its cheaper to buy a civic, spend about 9k on a proper swap, AND do mods like you did for probably another 2k ......rather than buy a 350z?
listen your arguing a losing battle here, you first say a k20 em2 will walk me...not true.
you then say its cheaper to do all the crap youve done to a CIVIC!! than buy a 350z.
you then say s2k's are quicker when in reality they are much closer to even if not the s2k is a bit slower, always a drivers race in my opinion though.
you continue by trying to tell me what my car cant handle.

end of the day, seems like your spitting things out hoping its true. why dont you try some research, and buy a ***** pump so you can get over the small weenie syndrome of having to start stuff with bigger and better things than yourself (or in this case your car). and FYI, even my civic wouldve walked you when it was complete. (car ran fine, all i needed was bigger injectors and a tune to push it to its comfortable limit of boost)


p.s. did you do anything on your car with your own 2 hands or are you the type to brag about what you paid someone else to make your car into? because ive never spent a dime on someone to install or consult or do crap to any of my cars...thats a right to be proud of a car, not paying.