So i took my K20 to the track
08-13-2005
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So i took my K20 to the track
Last night was the first time i took my car to the track in 2 months!i was like a little boy in a candy store. So many cars to race soooo little time. i got about 18 runs in, but the best i could hit was a 14.9@93.82. 
Its like every time i went to take off i had NOOOO traction all the way threw 3rd gear. 
So i need some tires, any suggestions there? Also my intake sits right on my upper radator hose so im pumping HOT *not warm or cool* air in to my car. Any ideas on how to render that? Well anyways just thought i woudl share my experince, nothing special. 
Its like every time i went to take off i had NOOOO traction all the way threw 3rd gear. So i need some tires, any suggestions there? Also my intake sits right on my upper radator hose so im pumping HOT *not warm or cool* air in to my car. Any ideas on how to render that? Well anyways just thought i woudl share my experince, nothing special. 
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Originally Posted by S2000man01
he has a 6 speed with an LSD already
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Originally Posted by k20txem2
Last night was the first time i took my car to the track in 2 months!i was like a little boy in a candy store. So many cars to race soooo little time. i got about 18 runs in, but the best i could hit was a 14.9@93.82. Its like every time i went to take off i had NOOOO traction all the way threw 3rd gear. So i need some tires, any suggestions there? Also my intake sits right on my upper radator hose so im pumping HOT *not warm or cool* air in to my car. Any ideas on how to render that? Well anyways just thought i woudl share my experince, nothing special.
Its like every time i went to take off i had NOOOO traction all the way threw 3rd gear. So i need some tires, any suggestions there? Also my intake sits right on my upper radator hose so im pumping HOT *not warm or cool* air in to my car. Any ideas on how to render that? Well anyways just thought i woudl share my experince, nothing special.
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Rep Power: 0 I know how to drive, But with flat spots all over my bald *** tires its kind of hard to get a decent 60 ft time 2.7. 2.9 3.1 when your tires just spin and you dont have the key to rotate or change you tired out. I know how to drive in a straight line. (just forgot to mention that part about my tired.)
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That has gotta be the record for the worst 60ft ever.
Get some new tires and try again. Low 14s shouldn't be a prob with good traction.
That has gotta be the record for the worst 60ft ever.
Get some new tires and try again. Low 14s shouldn't be a prob with good traction.
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Rep Power: 0 No they arent. Not with that trap speed. @ 93MPH he should be pulling down mid-high 4 second times with proper launches and traction. You need to get a handle on how ETs and trap speeds corelate.
BTW, I would have thought all the effort of a K20 swap would net you some better times then that. Lets see a full mods list.
I mean you are pulling the same times that stock RSX-S should be doing. And you dont weigh nearly as much as one.
BTW, I would have thought all the effort of a K20 swap would net you some better times then that. Lets see a full mods list.
I mean you are pulling the same times that stock RSX-S should be doing. And you dont weigh nearly as much as one.
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Rep Power: 375 it's only about 200-300 pounds lighter isn't it? someone help me out here. ex weight vs type S weight. i'm too lazy to look.
i would think just the swap would put the civic into mid 14's at best. ?? and yes, a 93mph trap is really about a 15 flat or high 14 at best.
i would think just the swap would put the civic into mid 14's at best. ?? and yes, a 93mph trap is really about a 15 flat or high 14 at best.
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Rep Power: 271 Im sure his trap speed will go up be a few mph though once he learns to launch better and drive better with the car. JDM K20 better be good for at least mid 14's if not better for that kind of money.
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Rep Power: 0 Trap speed has no relation to how well you launch. At most there will be a 1 or 2 MPH difference but that’s usually due to weather and track conditions varying.
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Rep Power: 271 Im assuming by his 60 foot time hes spinning down the track quite a ways. by spinning hes wasting that distance that he needs to go in order to get a better top speed. I know that your highest trap speed and best ET will almost never come out of the same run. Your telling me a K20a is only good for a 95 mph trap speed in a Civic? I hope thats not all it can do...
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Rep Power: 375 it all comes down to weight.
the civic weighs about 2600 pounds stock. the RSX-S weighs about 2800 pounds stock. save engine weight differences, that's a 200 pound difference. a stock RSX can do 14.9 with a fantastic driver. if you think 200 pounds is going to get you low 14's then you're doing way more than just wishful thinking.
the civic weighs about 2600 pounds stock. the RSX-S weighs about 2800 pounds stock. save engine weight differences, that's a 200 pound difference. a stock RSX can do 14.9 with a fantastic driver. if you think 200 pounds is going to get you low 14's then you're doing way more than just wishful thinking.
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Rep Power: 338 hmm ... interesting thread outcome ...
scansel ran a 14.7@93 mph with a 2.348 60' ... so I think a 93mph trap speed would be good for a 14.8 or better with a better launch.
According to edmunds, an 01 Civic EX weighs in at exactly 2550 ... +100 pounds for the extra weight of the K20a.
K20a's have 20 more hp and are also upgraded to a 4.76 final drive from a 4.38 (?) final drive ... plus, they have a flywheel that is 6 pounds lighter than the k20a2... so imo, the K20a's are considerably faster than the K20a2's ...
the average bone stock dyno of a K20a engine is 190 whp ... with a few mods, he should be at more power than that ...
scansel ran a 14.7@93 mph with a 2.348 60' ... so I think a 93mph trap speed would be good for a 14.8 or better with a better launch.
According to edmunds, an 01 Civic EX weighs in at exactly 2550 ... +100 pounds for the extra weight of the K20a.
K20a's have 20 more hp and are also upgraded to a 4.76 final drive from a 4.38 (?) final drive ... plus, they have a flywheel that is 6 pounds lighter than the k20a2... so imo, the K20a's are considerably faster than the K20a2's ...
the average bone stock dyno of a K20a engine is 190 whp ... with a few mods, he should be at more power than that ...
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Originally Posted by S2000man01
it all comes down to weight.
the civic weighs about 2600 pounds stock. the RSX-S weighs about 2800 pounds stock. save engine weight differences, that's a 200 pound difference. a stock RSX can do 14.9 with a fantastic driver. if you think 200 pounds is going to get you low 14's then you're doing way more than just wishful thinking.
the civic weighs about 2600 pounds stock. the RSX-S weighs about 2800 pounds stock. save engine weight differences, that's a 200 pound difference. a stock RSX can do 14.9 with a fantastic driver. if you think 200 pounds is going to get you low 14's then you're doing way more than just wishful thinking.
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Originally Posted by scansel912
Im assuming by his 60 foot time hes spinning down the track quite a ways. by spinning hes wasting that distance that he needs to go in order to get a better top speed. I know that your highest trap speed and best ET will almost never come out of the same run. Your telling me a K20a is only good for a 95 mph trap speed in a Civic? I hope thats not all it can do...
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Originally Posted by aznboysrfr
hmm ... interesting thread outcome ...
scansel ran a 14.7@93 mph with a 2.348 60' ... so I think a 93mph trap speed would be good for a 14.8 or better with a better launch.
scansel ran a 14.7@93 mph with a 2.348 60' ... so I think a 93mph trap speed would be good for a 14.8 or better with a better launch.
According to edmunds, an 01 Civic EX weighs in at exactly 2550 ... +100 pounds for the extra weight of the K20a.
K20a's have 20 more hp and are also upgraded to a 4.76 final drive from a 4.38 (?) final drive ... plus, they have a flywheel that is 6 pounds lighter than the k20a2... so imo, the K20a's are considerably faster than the K20a2's ...
the average bone stock dyno of a K20a engine is 190 whp ... with a few mods, he should be at more power than that ...
K20a's have 20 more hp and are also upgraded to a 4.76 final drive from a 4.38 (?) final drive ... plus, they have a flywheel that is 6 pounds lighter than the k20a2... so imo, the K20a's are considerably faster than the K20a2's ...
the average bone stock dyno of a K20a engine is 190 whp ... with a few mods, he should be at more power than that ...
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Originally Posted by scansel912
He has the DC5R swap and tranny. It has more hp than the rsx and geared more agressively.
so as i asked above. what does the DC5R run in the 1/4 mile? take that and subtract maybe .2 seconds at most and you'll have an idea of what he should run with just the swap.
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Rep Power: 338 http://www.itr-dc5.co.uk/spec/index.php
according to that, the 1/4 mile (0-400m) is 14.3 seconds
the actual dc5-r car weighs 1180 kg with a/c and 1170 kg without a/c ... which converts to about 2601 pounds with a/c and 2579 pounds without ...
according to that, the 1/4 mile (0-400m) is 14.3 seconds
the actual dc5-r car weighs 1180 kg with a/c and 1170 kg without a/c ... which converts to about 2601 pounds with a/c and 2579 pounds without ...
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Rep Power: 375 so in other words, it's not really much of a weight savings. if the DC5R weighs 2600 pounds, and the civic weighs 2650 with that engine, then there would be a slight weight gain.
even so, obviously he should be in the mid 14's for sure.
even so, obviously he should be in the mid 14's for sure.
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Originally Posted by _Viper_
Hey just BTW guys what do you think the 8th gen Si with LSD 6 speed will run??
low 14's prob also right???
low 14's prob also right???
