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Old Jan 26, 2005
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7thgencivic vs toyota celica gt

my friend just got a 2001 celica gt, it has 140 horsepower, he has 18 in chrome wheels on it. who do you think will win

m car has cai and exhaust
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Old Jan 26, 2005
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whoever has the biggest wing on their car.
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if u got an auto....him....5 spd....and he has auto....probably u...both 5 spds.....i dunno
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both are five speed
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he definately has a bigger wing on his car
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i would guess you, but i think it's gonna be close.

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I think you should win , arnt the GTs heavy plus he has 18 inch rims
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gt's have 140 horsepower,
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Gt would kill ur civic, don't even bother....(reminder u lucky if you putt 100 to the wheels....)
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too close, can't say
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Gt would kill ur civic, don't even bother....(reminder u lucky if you putt 100 to the wheels....)
and what do you think the GT puts to the wheels? 110? 115? it doesn't put 140 to the wheels.

and no the gt won't kill his civic.
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gt's as well as gts's are very light ... maybe 100 pounds lighter than the civic.. something like that.

depends on what kind of wheels you have on your car ... 18" chrome wheels are ridiculously heavy
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not to mention more than likely an increase in overall tire diameter which is akin to putting taller gears in your car, thus slowing your acceleration.
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i'd say pretty close race, all depends on the driver.
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Originally Posted by ajhdragon
i'd say pretty close race, all depends on the driver.
I agree although the gt has a slight advantage, it is still a drivers race.
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I have played around with a few GT's. Got a few and got owned a few. its a drivers race.
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Well to be realistic...

Just looking @ numbers, the GT will take you. Your intake/exhaust will not do enough. The biggest factor is weight, even if you took out all your audio, speakers and amps, he'll still get you.

Weight
Vic Ex: 2597
Celi GT: 2425

HP/TRQ
Vic Ex: 127/114
Celi GT:140/125

He has a better power to weight ratio and also the GT has better agressive gearing compared to your ex. He might pull a car maybe a lil less or more, but I wouldnt call that close. Only way to find out is race him.
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<----used to take civics in my auto GTS when I had it..I'm thinking manual gt would get ya
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I took one, we both had intake and exhaust. I ran a 16.0 to his 16.5, so yea I believe its a drivers race.
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Originally Posted by k2001civicboy
my friend just got a 2001 celica gt, it has 140 horsepower, he has 18 in chrome wheels on it. who do you think will win

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DUde, I killed one the other day that was from florida. I was going 90-ish and passed him then all of a sudden he goes behind me. SO i shift gears and hes still there
he couldnt get more than 3 cars closer to me. Then finally he gave up.
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people need to stop looking at max hp numbers as if that determines the winner of a race.

so much more goes into this. gearing, power band, weight, etc.

i'm amazed people are ignoring the fact this guy added heavy chrome 18" rims to his car. Added weight, PLUS the fact that the larger diameter rims/tires reduce acceleration.
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by the way, after a quick 10 minute search, the best i could find for a stock celica GT was a 16.0. that's a driver's race with a civic ex all day.

and now throw in those bigger rims/tires and i'm thinking he should be fairly beatable for you.
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im gonna have to say +1 for the Civic (if your a good driver)
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Originally Posted by Civic_RedLine
DUde, I killed one the other day that was from florida. I was going 90-ish and passed him then all of a sudden he goes behind me. SO i shift gears and hes still there
he couldnt get more than 3 cars closer to me. Then finally he gave up.
this was without nitrous. Only v2, dc header, greddy catback, ground wire, spark plugs, aem powersteering pulley and alternator pulley.

All I could see from the gt was a muffler and it was from florida while in california.
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Being from Florida gives a car 10 whp.

Celica GT's are slow, but so are Civics...drivers race.
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I know the auto tranny in the GT and GT-S is crap, but he's got a 5spd, so I would say a driver's race. Just like s2000man01 said, those chromies aren't helping, so as long as you don't have big *** rims and a huge system, you should be able to keep up or take him. If you do have aftermarket wheels, put your stockies back on and drop the pressure on the fronts to about 20-22 psi.
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I never knew we stood a chance against GT's...

Confidence = +1
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Originally Posted by ThsUserNmIsDumb
I never knew we stood a chance against GT's...

Confidence = +1
Find an auto GT and a stick Civic will crush it...auto GT-S also,mid-high 16 sec cars, I hear the actually run similer times to auto GT's b/c auto GT-S's have problems staying in lift. I walked an auto GT-s bad in my RSX...before i put in the k20a2.
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auto GTS is not a 16 second car....
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Originally Posted by S2000man01
auto GTS is not a 16 second car....

What does a GTS do? Low 15's or High 14?

Is it lighter than our previous gen Integra Type R.
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