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Basics for judging best of show car

Just want to clarify what judges look on a car during a show competition
Let's be ojective:
Out of the NCAA national judging guide.

CLASSIFICATION:

INTERIOR (CUSTOM, NOT STOCK)
GRAPHICS
UNDERCARRIAGE
CUSTOM PAINT (NOT STOCK)
BODY MODIFICATIONS
WING OR SPOILER
TRUNK INTERIOR (CUSTOM)
ENGINE BRIGHT ITEMS
ENGINE PAINT
CHROME OR HOPPER STYLE UNDERCARRIAGE
CUSTOM WHEELS

ENGINE MAX. 800 POINTS (WORK MUST BE DONE PROPERLY)
Hose Covers - Clamps, Wires, etc.
Motor Compartment - Paint, Material, etc.
Engine Swap - NOT Replacement
Inventive Ideas - Pin stripes, Under hood Cove, Etching, Murals
Exhaust System - Custom, Chrome, Tips, Headers, etc.
Motor Bolt-Ons - Chrome, Paint
Radiator - Front Bug Free, Top Polished, Clean
Cleanliness
800
INTERIOR MAX. 800 POINTS (WORK MSUT BE DONE PROPERLY)
Interior Compartment - Vinyl/Velour Seats, Matching Door Panels, etc.
Interior Bolt-Ons - Console, Gearshift *****, etc.
Steering Wheel - Cover or Change, NOT BOTH
Peddle Covers
Mats
Lighting - Aircraft, Neon, etc.
Gauges - Stock or Custom
Cleanliness
800
STEREO MAX. 800 POINTS (WORK MUST BE DONE PROPERLY)
Stereo - Head Unit Relocated
Speaker Replacement - NOT Woofers, Door Panels
Box - Woofer Placement
Amp Rack - Not Loss Under Seat
Servo's - Power Doos, Windows, Amp Rack, etc.
Stereo Install - Wire Blocks, Wires Hidden, etc.
Electronics - TV's, VCR's Phones, Radar Detector
Added Batterires - Vehicle Batteries
800
TRUNK AREA MAX. 800 POINTS (WORK MUST BE DONE PROPERLY)
Trunk Compartment - Not Scratched, Ripped, Faded
Interior Modifications - Carpet Cabinets, Etc.
Display
Spare Tire
Spare Tire Cover
Cleanliness
600
SAFETY MAX. 350 POINTS (WORK MUST BE DONE PROPERLY)
Display - Cans, Tool Boxes, Stanchions, Trophies
Tools - Sockets, Wrenches, etc.
Lug Wrench - Custom Paint, Pin Stripe, etc.
Equipment - Flare, Cones, etc.
Jacks - Custom Paint , Pin Stripe, etc.
Emergency - First Aid Kits, Fire Extinguisher
Jack Stands - Wheel Off for Display
350
EXTERIOR MAX. 800 POINTS (WORK MUST BE DONE PROPERLY)
Base Paint - Subtract for Dirt, Orange Peel, Runs, Smudged Wax or Wax in Cracks etc.
Pinstripes - Anywhere on Vehicle, Painted / Taped
Graphics - Anywhere, Painted/taped (NOT MURALS)
Door Jams - Paint Matches, Graphics Pinstripes
Window Etching - Sand/Etch, Matching Theme, Logos
Window Tint - Sparkle, Graphics
Window Tape or Paint - Club Logos, etc
Body Modifications - Door Handles, Walk-Thru, Antennas, Cut Topes, etc.
Rims
Brace Drums - Chromed, Painted, etc.
Vaive Stems - Mounted Correctly, Covered, Chrome
Wiper Arms and Blades
Exterior Bolt-Ons - Blasters, Headlight Covers
Murals - Painted/Tape Picture, Anywhere on Vehicle
Cleanliness
800
UNDERCARRIAGE MAX. 500 POINTS (WORK MUST BE DONE PROPERLY)
Detail - Pinstripes, Mirrors, Graphics, etc.
Pan or Frame - Match or Enhance Theme of Vehicle
Pan or Framed Filled - Smoothed Out and Filled Holes
Hydraulics - Hopper System
Height of Car - Lowered/Raised bywhat means
Cleanliness
500
EXTRAS MAX. 500 POINTS (WORK MUST BE DONE PROPERLY)
Display Board - Small or Lage
Overall Appearance
Display - Carpet, Trophies
Contestant Attitude
Alarms - Roll Up Windows, Start, Lock etc.
Neon - Inside the Vehicle
Neon - Outside the Vehicle, 1 kit, 2 kits, etc
500
ENGINEERING MAX. 600 POINTS (WORK MUST BE DONE PROPERLY)
Engine - Filled Firewall, Murals, Replacement
Interior - Seats, TV, VCR's etc.
Body - Ground Effects, Wide Body, New Fronts, etc
Frame - Filled Suspension
Stereo - Costume Boc, AMP Backs, etc
Lighting - Interior / Exterior
600

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Thanks for clearing that up, there alot more to a show car than lambo doors and 19" rims. It seems that only people from Cali and Florida understand how important it is for a show car to have performance mods equivalent or even better than cosmetic mods.
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Uhh ok.. I dont think anyone is gonna start awarding points per car.. I figure its just a personal preference as to which car you like... Doesnt really mean it has to have the most stuff or what not just which one each person likes the most.. JMO..
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For best of show?
You bet!
is an overall looks and performance.

For most likeable or popular
It's for what each person likes the most!
Kindda of like a prom's king and queen
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and that list perfectly gives you the reason why most show cars(not doggin anyone here) are ricey lookin.
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went to formula D the other day and the judgin sucked ***. No one ever came by, except for some dude who ran around looked at the car for like 2 seconds and moved on. ****er And then you know who wins.... the ****ing cars in the booths. Who were not even in the area of the car show.
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generally i dont think the cars in booths are eligable for judging due to the fact that they are promo cars usually.
as for judging it all depends on the judges... ive been to HIN and seen a car get awarded 2nd just cause they knew the judge... total BS.. but it happens.
again what supermex posted is what is supose to be based off of and is excellent outline to follow if your building a show car...

ive seen cars with just i/h/e win best in class.
all depends..
deff. worth following if your are building a show car, i will deff. print it out and use it.

also a litttle bit of info... if you are at a NCCA judged show and you are a member write your number BIG on the top it helps when you are getting judged.

and dont stand away from the judge point stuff out he may have missed.
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Y aI was told when the judge comes a knocking, you got sell your car to him., Hype it up. Make them believe its the best one there.
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generally i dont think the cars in booths are eligable for judging due to the fact that they are promo cars usually.
as for judging it all depends on the judges... ive been to HIN and seen a car get awarded 2nd just cause they knew the judge... total BS.. but it happens.
again what supermex posted is what is supose to be based off of and is excellent outline to follow if your building a show car...

ive seen cars with just i/h/e win best in class.
all depends..
I feel the same way about booth cars. I got beat in San Mateo's HIN for best paint to the Evil Z who is sponosored by one of the main corporate sponsors of HIN. I don't think it's fair to allow sponsored cars to compete becuase it's a conflict of interest. The show wants to be fair, but at the same time, they want to show love to the people funding the show.

As for people winning best of class with i/h/e, you got to see it as the catagories break down. I know I do't have much engine work done yet, but I can def. go pound for pound against some of the top tuner cars as far as body mods are concerned. Someone can score perfect marks on so many catagories, i.e. suspnsion, finish, interior, ICE but when it comes down to engine, they get a few points. Nonetheless, he already has more then enough points from the other catagories to put him over the top. Then again, different shows base on different style judging.
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HIN has deffinately a conflict when judging a car.
Booth cars sholudn't be aloud but booths brings the most amount of income to the show.
I belive that a diferent cathegory should be created for booth cars.

A good judge should distinguish from rice to nice.
I seen cars with all the mods including fishtanks where the headlights should be.
Or tv monitors inside the engine bay or outside the car.
Rendering the vehicle useless.
Deffinately beauty should be follow by function.

The guide lines are there but the objectivity of the judges get's comprimise by politics or just plain ignorance.
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supermex well put....
yeah its deff. hard at shows like HIN.. i deff think that function should be incorporated into the judging aswell...
to be honest, i didnt even realize there was a safty catagory at the bigger shows like HIN or an NCCA judged show...
its funny i went to one show in NY and they went so far as to check the tread on the tires.. now that is just rediculous...
all depends on the judge i guess, and politics deff. plays a hand in it.

i mean ive won a few shows, nothing major like HIN, but maybe someday i can win a trophy at HIN not greedy dont need 1st (would be nice) but ild take 1-3 in wild, or civic class....
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I hope to take a Wild trophy this month at Hot Import Daze. Or Best Bodywork, or Best Paint, or Best Finish, or Thank you for competing. ANYTHING!... ha ha ha. I've never been able to place at HIN or HID cause the competition in the west is too insane...
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don't forget take all food/detail supplies/papers out of your car before judging! I got docked for that. And forgot some of my mods...presentation is key here.
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