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Alignment suggestions or input?

We are planning to do front suspension work on a 2003 Honda Civic LX.

Will replace outer tie rods, lower ball joints, stabilizer bar ends and LCA's for both sides on the front.

Afterwards, planning to do the alignment. Was wondering if it can be done at home or any other cheaper suggestions? Is doing at home worth it?

Have looked at these threads too:

https://www.civicforums.com/forums/4...alignment.html
https://www.civicforums.com/forums/4...alignment.html

Can this video be used?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjZUu_d08t8

Thanks for the help.

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Re: Alignment suggestions or input?

you can, no problems, as long as you are meticulous on the job
did not watch the video, though
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Re: Alignment suggestions or input?

I see, thanks.

Since rear wheel is not adjustable, so that should be used as a reference point? Correct?
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Re: Alignment suggestions or input?

Rear toe is adjustable. Rear toe spec is slightly toed in.

I'd just pay someone to align it right (if I could trust anyone other than myself LOL).
Install your parts, set it by eyeball good enough to get to the alignment shop without tearing up the tires.


If you can scribe and have a toe bar, you can get pretty dang close on the front toe.
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Re: Alignment suggestions or input?

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Rear toe is adjustable. Rear toe spec is slightly toed in.

I'd just pay someone to align it right (if I could trust anyone other than myself LOL).
Install your parts, set it by eyeball good enough to get to the alignment shop without tearing up the tires.


If you can scribe and have a toe bar, you can get pretty dang close on the front toe.
Thanks EZ, are you suggesting to install the parts and eyeball to make sure it's good enough and let have a shop handle it?

Stealership is charging $90 for it!
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Re: Alignment suggestions or input?

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Thanks EZ, are you suggesting to install the parts and eyeball to make sure it's good enough and let have a shop handle it?

Stealership is charging $90 for it!
Eyeball and tape measure to get close enough to drive a few miles, if you can't scribe and nail down exact zero toe on the front.


90? Pfft.
Ours is a FIVE wheel alignment for 99.95. You wanted the steering wheel straight, yes?

Half of our shop doesn't know anything about aligning a car...but they can work the machine and get a decent outcome, that's the way the machines are designed.
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Re: Alignment suggestions or input?

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Eyeball and tape measure to get close enough to drive a few miles, if you can't scribe and nail down exact zero toe on the front.
Car was aligned almost 1.5 year ago when new tires were put on and so far alignment is good! No pulling or uneven wear on tires.


90? Pfft.
Ours is a FIVE wheel alignment for 99.95. You wanted the steering wheel straight, yes?
It's with a $20 discount, usually it's 110. I think it'll be 5 Wheels too

Half of our shop doesn't know anything about aligning a car...but they can work the machine and get a decent outcome, that's the way the machines are designed.
Not offense, but I can't agree with you anymore. There are some really 'rookies' at pep boy's running an alignment machine, seriously I have seen them doing and struggling with an expensive maching
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Re: Alignment suggestions or input?

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Not offense, but I can't agree with you anymore.
Couldn't agree anymore?
Couldn't agree any more?
Couldn't agree more?
What? What?



Todays alignment machines are designed so any mouth breathing knuckle dragger can follow the bouncing ball and end up with an acceptable outcome, a car that probably goes fairly straight down the road.

But "everything is in the green" is the extent of the expertise. No working knowledge, no theory, no clue what to do when "everything is in the green" yet the car still pulls or eats tires.

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I cut my teeth using some pretty primitive alignment equipment, but if you know what you are doing that old equipment can work very well.
There was no bouncing ball to follow, you had to have a decent amount of knowledge about the tasks you were doing.

Todays equipment is much quicker to use though. I wouldn't want to go back to a bubble level and strings or scribe and pointers.
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Re: Alignment suggestions or input?

Originally Posted by ezone
Couldn't agree anymore?
Couldn't agree any more?
Couldn't agree more?
What? What?
Means, no offense to anyone and I agree with you

Guess, will put these parts on, use a string method to align the wheels and then take it from there!

Thanks for your help.




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