Should i replace whole suspension or just struts
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My 2004 civic is very rough over the bumps i can feel everything shaking inside when hit the broke roads and ofcourse i feel every bump on my *** too.. me and my mechanic we checked it everything is fine with bounce test. now my mechanic said it could be that it has some 'china' cheap suspensions which doesnt absorb bumps properli and needs to replace. He said i can jus get the struts replaces with parts and labor for 650 or i can get whole suspension i guess ? replaced for 800 dollars.. Now im not sure which option should i pick as there is big price difference
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Well before anyone can answer your question, what are you lowered on if you are lowered at all? Or are you on stock? Are they springs for sleeves? Are they red and say racelands or rokkors?
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They are not lowered .. they are at original height and they look like black in color so im sure they are regular ones
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Alright so it sounds like you are on stock suspension. There is no need to replace the springs so all you will need to do it replace your struts. The best aftermarket replacement that would keep stock ride quality (smooth) are tokico blues. They are around 400 a set. I would get them and have your mech install them for you.
Other options are kyb shocks, but they're not as good as tokicos. Just as long as you don't get cheap crappy shocks (like the ones from autozone or monroe) then your fine.
Gabriel shocks aren't that bad but they cost similar to the blues and at that point, I'd just get the blues.
Other options are kyb shocks, but they're not as good as tokicos. Just as long as you don't get cheap crappy shocks (like the ones from autozone or monroe) then your fine.
Gabriel shocks aren't that bad but they cost similar to the blues and at that point, I'd just get the blues.
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Alright so it sounds like you are on stock suspension. There is no need to replace the springs so all you will need to do it replace your struts. The best aftermarket replacement that would keep stock ride quality (smooth) are tokico blues. They are around 400 a set. I would get them and have your mech install them for you.
Other options are kyb shocks, but they're not as good as tokicos. Just as long as you don't get cheap crappy shocks (like the ones from autozone or monroe) then your fine.
Gabriel shocks aren't that bad but they cost similar to the blues and at that point, I'd just get the blues.
Other options are kyb shocks, but they're not as good as tokicos. Just as long as you don't get cheap crappy shocks (like the ones from autozone or monroe) then your fine.
Gabriel shocks aren't that bad but they cost similar to the blues and at that point, I'd just get the blues.
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Monroe are complete garbage. I installed them on a friends sentra and two blew out within a year. Not to mention the ride quality was bouncy.
Reason why your mech prob recommended them is because they ate cost efficient and he can keep the parts cost low
Reason why your mech prob recommended them is because they ate cost efficient and he can keep the parts cost low
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And no. No need to change suspension. Keep the springs. Unless the springs are rusted to the metal, then there is no need to get new springs
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the monroes are about $56 a strut. thats a little over $200 in parts. which means he's charging you around $400ish for labor. the current labor rate for mechanics is around $75 an hr.
the labor is a little on the expensive side as removing/install suspension only takes about 2-3hrs on a lift (i can disassemble and reassemble my suspension in about an hr and a half).
the labor is a little on the expensive side as removing/install suspension only takes about 2-3hrs on a lift (i can disassemble and reassemble my suspension in about an hr and a half).
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ask him if the alignment is included (you WILL need an alignment after you install new shocks).
ask him what kind of warranty is included? if one of your monroe blows out in 6 months, will he replace it free of charge?
take these into consideration. suspension isnt cheap, and many times, the labor is what makes it expensive.
ask him what kind of warranty is included? if one of your monroe blows out in 6 months, will he replace it free of charge?
take these into consideration. suspension isnt cheap, and many times, the labor is what makes it expensive.
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the monroes are about $56 a strut. thats a little over $200 in parts. which means he's charging you around $400ish for labor. the current labor rate for mechanics is around $75 an hr.
the labor is a little on the expensive side as removing/install suspension only takes about 2-3hrs on a lift (i can disassemble and reassemble my suspension in about an hr and a half).
the labor is a little on the expensive side as removing/install suspension only takes about 2-3hrs on a lift (i can disassemble and reassemble my suspension in about an hr and a half).
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so this other mechanic told me about monroe sensa tracs.... how are they ? what do u guys think about them.. i just wanna keep my ride for max 4 years as its 04 model so i dont wanna spend on somthing so much like it shuld be something reasonable.. but again i dont want my car to turn out to be same jumping box within a year or two
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What sl33py forgot to notice is that while you can ge the struts a lot cheaper from amazon, he is most likely just getting them from autozone for $90
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It's a prime item n it's free shipping.
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I shuldve told you guys in the begining .. im in canada .. so no free shipping for me .. plus i been seeing so many different sensa tracs for different prices.. im confused
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Can weather be a factor of car being rough and bumpy ? its freezing here some of my friends said its going to be smoother in summer
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don't pay someone for something that can easily be done yourself. garages charge so much in labor is because they know most people are to scared to get there hands dirty.
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that totally changes everything. $650 isnt a bad price at that point. we have a few mods here that are from canada (blueEM2) and its much more expensive in your part of the world.
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and remmeber, not everyone has the luxury of working it on their driveway, have ALL the proper tools, and the knowledge/time to work on their cars.
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yah its actually 800 bucks .. if i go for sensa tracs.. 650 was for some less quality munroes
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not sure of sensa tracks, i keep away from monroe.
some guys also vouches for the KYB GR2's -similar price range (albeitnow that more are using them, i hear they loose some damping after a while, but compared to standard monroes that start out of the box without damping, i guess it's better.
i lived in canada too, prices suck compared to US, taxes eats away paycheck, but goverment services are much better. unfortunately as temporary, i paid but will not collect...
some guys also vouches for the KYB GR2's -similar price range (albeitnow that more are using them, i hear they loose some damping after a while, but compared to standard monroes that start out of the box without damping, i guess it's better.
i lived in canada too, prices suck compared to US, taxes eats away paycheck, but goverment services are much better. unfortunately as temporary, i paid but will not collect...
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so i went to my other friend and hes a mechanic too .. upon inspection of the car he said civics are generally rougher than other cars and since i have 15inch metal alloy rim not stock "plate" rims it can also cause a bit rougher ride.. what do u guys think abt his review ? does he sound reasanable
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Advise you to just complete the suspension replacement. The stock system is not that great, and does not last longer than 100k if that at optimal ride height.
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I bought sensen struts for 66.50 for the rear pair.
Supposed to be oem for audi VW and some other car.
I'm installing tmrw. I'll update in a while to see how good they are. (or Bad)
Supposed to be oem for audi VW and some other car.
I'm installing tmrw. I'll update in a while to see how good they are. (or Bad)
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so i went to my other friend and hes a mechanic too .. upon inspection of the car he said civics are generally rougher than other cars and since i have 15inch metal alloy rim not stock "plate" rims it can also cause a bit rougher ride.. what do u guys think abt his review ? does he sound reasanable
He's a complete idiot and there are so many things wrong with his statements.