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i have read through the suspension FAQ as well as a few other posts but unfortunately i am still at a loss because my main issue is i do not know how low i should go. i don't want to "slam" my car as they say nor do i intend to camber my wheels so that they stick out awkwardly. i just want to lower my height so get the maximum amount of performance and so my question is what height would be best for handling for my vehicle. i have a 2002 em2 ex
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The general rule of thumb for our civic is that any lower than 2" you start compromising suspension dynamic performance.
I DID say "general" tho.... There are exceptions.
I DID say "general" tho.... There are exceptions.
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I'm only down about 1.2" which leaves a 1-finger gap and I had some pretty obvious clearance issues. But I'm mostly to blame because I bought huge tires (215/45/R17). I just recently rolled my rear fenders, but they occasionally still snag on the tire.
I'd say the EM2 could safely go another 1/2 inch lower assuming a reasonable tire size and offset and still be practical. As for me, i have to wait for a new pair of shoes first
I'd say the EM2 could safely go another 1/2 inch lower assuming a reasonable tire size and offset and still be practical. As for me, i have to wait for a new pair of shoes first
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thanks for your advice. will definitely keep that in mind i am looking at these rims from enkei
http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/Wheel...ll&sort=Weight
and i would like to get some nitto neo gens for tires
http://www.nittotire.com/Tire/neogen#size
but it seems like there may be an issue with the size of the tire if i were to go with a 15 inch rim because the recommend tire size is 195/60-15 but the size the tire comes in is 205/50R15. will i still be able to do this combo or would something go wrong?
http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/Wheel...ll&sort=Weight
and i would like to get some nitto neo gens for tires
http://www.nittotire.com/Tire/neogen#size
but it seems like there may be an issue with the size of the tire if i were to go with a 15 inch rim because the recommend tire size is 195/60-15 but the size the tire comes in is 205/50R15. will i still be able to do this combo or would something go wrong?
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also i am looking at these Tein coilovers and there was a version that have pillowball upper mounts.
http://www.tein.com/products/super_s...illowball.html
i am not sure if i was reading it correctly on another website but it seemed to state that if i got the coilovers with pillow ball upper mounts that i would not have to purchase a camber kit. do yall know anything about that? is it something i should bother with?
http://www.tein.com/products/super_s...illowball.html
i am not sure if i was reading it correctly on another website but it seemed to state that if i got the coilovers with pillow ball upper mounts that i would not have to purchase a camber kit. do yall know anything about that? is it something i should bother with?
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I'm only down about 1.2" which leaves a 1-finger gap and I had some pretty obvious clearance issues. But I'm mostly to blame because I bought huge tires (215/45/R17). I just recently rolled my rear fenders, but they occasionally still snag on the tire.
I'd say the EM2 could safely go another 1/2 inch lower assuming a reasonable tire size and offset and still be practical. As for me, i have to wait for a new pair of shoes first
I'd say the EM2 could safely go another 1/2 inch lower assuming a reasonable tire size and offset and still be practical. As for me, i have to wait for a new pair of shoes first
also i am looking at these Tein coilovers and there was a version that have pillowball upper mounts.
http://www.tein.com/products/super_s...illowball.html
i am not sure if i was reading it correctly on another website but it seemed to state that if i got the coilovers with pillow ball upper mounts that i would not have to purchase a camber kit. do yall know anything about that? is it something i should bother with?
http://www.tein.com/products/super_s...illowball.html
i am not sure if i was reading it correctly on another website but it seemed to state that if i got the coilovers with pillow ball upper mounts that i would not have to purchase a camber kit. do yall know anything about that? is it something i should bother with?
They're not terrible. I quite like mine, actually. Plus, they're fairly inexpensive. I found a low price online (forgot where though..) and discount tire beat the price, so I ended up getting them for $97/ea
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two different venues you can go - springs and shocks/struts or coilovers.
at 1" if you looking for performance, you will he happier with camber kits (if coilovers, you might get fronts in the package, but the rear is the main issue)
eibach springs or tein/neuspeed? plus your choice of koni or KYB or tokiko shocks (adjustable if possible - tokiko is not though very good blues)
performance relies mainly on the stiffer springs and shocks that can control the springs, not the height.
205/50R15 is comparable to the 195/60R15 - check the miatanet tire calculator (you read the suspension FAQ, so you know where it is?)
at 1" if you looking for performance, you will he happier with camber kits (if coilovers, you might get fronts in the package, but the rear is the main issue)
eibach springs or tein/neuspeed? plus your choice of koni or KYB or tokiko shocks (adjustable if possible - tokiko is not though very good blues)
performance relies mainly on the stiffer springs and shocks that can control the springs, not the height.
205/50R15 is comparable to the 195/60R15 - check the miatanet tire calculator (you read the suspension FAQ, so you know where it is?)
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the issues i was referring to weren't whether they would rub or fit in the wheel well. i was wondering if the wheel would fit on the tire being that the recommend with (195) was smaller then the width of the tire (205). i don't know a lot about tire sizes so i just wanted to make sure that the tire could still fit on the rim
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They are not bad when they are warm or in the summer seasons... You live in a very hot area so I don't doubt they perform well.
When I had them (205/45/16) I had horrendous experience when there was ANY kind of moisture on the ground and I would constantly hydroplane in the rain at freeway speeds.
I would take the fallen 912 over the nittogen
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the issues i was referring to weren't whether they would rub or fit in the wheel well. i was wondering if the wheel would fit on the tire being that the recommend with (195) was smaller then the width of the tire (205). i don't know a lot about tire sizes so i just wanted to make sure that the tire could still fit on the rim
Yes, they aren't completely crap but they suck in anything else besides summer wether.
They are not bad when they are warm or in the summer seasons... You live in a very hot area so I don't doubt they perform well.
When I had them (205/45/16) I had horrendous experience when there was ANY kind of moisture on the ground and I would constantly hydroplane in the rain at freeway speeds.
I would take the fallen 912 over the nittogen
They are not bad when they are warm or in the summer seasons... You live in a very hot area so I don't doubt they perform well.
When I had them (205/45/16) I had horrendous experience when there was ANY kind of moisture on the ground and I would constantly hydroplane in the rain at freeway speeds.
I would take the fallen 912 over the nittogen
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thats the strange part! ive driven in snow with the nittogens and they were fine... just not in rain...
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lowlife already answered that question. With the pillow mounts in the front you wont need a front camber kit but you will still need a rear. If you don't get pillow ball mounts for the front then you may not need a front kit but you will definitely need a rear (unless you enjoy buying tires). If your less then an inch then you may not need one. I think some people with Eibach Pro kits don't use camber kits at all (don't know how their tires hold up).
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6" = 195
6.6" = 205
7" =215
If you got a 7" wide rim, you could get away with having a 205. The "stretching" effects are negligible.
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