CivicN3wb

OK, so my rear left brake has been squeaking for months now, and it's driving me nuts!

I've lubed the six contact points on the shoe about three times, each time cleaning the old stuff off and then reapplying it very liberally, but the squeak refuses to go away. It's like the car is intentionally trying to drive me insane

I start from a stoplight: SQUEAK!

I start from a stop sign: SQUEAK!

I tap my brakes: SQUEAK!!

Arrrrrg...

What should I do?

lowlife9

did you lube up the return spring ??? does it make noise with the e brake ??? this is common with hondas mine always does it i just turn up the radio.

ezone

I put Moly grease on the backing plate contact areas, not the shoes.

gearbox

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i used to like the squeaking, esp using the ebrake to keep doing it. i usually got some strange looks. unfortunately after the last brake job it stopped. you can lube the ebrake cable too and that will stop it for a while.

CivicN3wb

No, I'm not even sure what the return spring is. How do you lube the spring? Do you put brake lube all along the spring?

Yes, it does make noise when using the e-brake.


I put it on the six contact points (the flat tab things that face outward), but I thought those contact points were part of the shoes. I could be wrong. Is Moly grease better/different than brake lube?

Oh, ha ha, very funny I seriously doubt anyone in their right mind would "like" their brakes squeaking incessantly like this

Muirsy

Mine use to always squeak never bothered to try and fix it just swapped out to rsx type-s brakes, problem solved no more squeaking. lol

ezone

There are small flats on the shoes, and raised areas on the backing plate that mate with those flats.

Maybe the disc brake grease you got isn't good enough or isn't the same. IDK. Read the MSDS on it and see what is in it.

Didn't look it up this time, but I always thought Honda calls for Moly. (MoS2 44 or 60, I believe. Don't quote me on that.)
A small package of Moly comes with each and every set of brake pads, I have SCADS of the stuff laying around.


I THOUGHT this had been asked before.... https://www.civicforums.com/forums/3...ing-noise.html



Maybe it has worn off or rinsed off?

CivicN3wb

Really? I didn't notice areas on the plate that were raised. I don't suppose the plate has to be oriented a certain way when I put it back on, does it?

The same as what?

I'm using this: http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/web...ontent=general


Yep, it didn't stay quiet for long, unfortunately I didn't want to resurrect an old thread, particularly since the problem appears to be different (putting more brake lube on the six contact points isn't fixing the problem..).

ezone

Go back to the other thread and look at the pics posted. You should find the exact same raised contact areas on your backing plates.

It's bolted on. You can't move it.
Wait....What do you think a backing plate is?


The lube appears to be good quality stuff, but I have never seen or used it so I can't really comment much on it.
Is the tone or pitch of the noise now any different from when grease DID fix the noise?

You can be parked, and pump the brake pedal, and make the noise...Correct?
Same noise occurs when you pull the handbrake, correct?

The noise must be coming from movement of the brake shoes or their hardware.
Unless something went seriously wrong inside that drum. Have you looked yet? Why only one side?

Maybe you can take off the drum and have someone work the handbrake PART WAY up-- in order to locate the noise source. (Don't pull the handbrake all the way up!!!) Use a screwdriver to lift/pry (gently) each shoe away from the backing plate while working the handbrake, see if that makes the noise go away.

By far the loudest ones I ever hear are the contact points on the backing plates. Seems like I offer to grease the plates on a semi regular basis. Only a few people seem to care enough ($$) to do the job though. Of course any of the metal-to-metal contact areas can be a source of noises too...but rare.

Maybe try some moly grease while you are at it. LOL.

HTH?

CivicN3wb

I thought you were talking about what is apparently called the "brake drum" I was wondering why you were referring to it as the "backing plate," as it was on the front, lol..

I was too chicken to take the brake shoes off, because the video I watched showing how to do it made it look like stuff could go wrong in a big way if done incorrectly (like bleeding the brakes, which I haven't learned how to do yet!), but I pried the shoes off a little and was able to work in a bit of lube with a q-tip. I wasn't able to get all of the contact points, or get much lube on those I was able to reach, but the squeak is gone! So I guess if it happens again I'll just have to brake down (ha ha) and take off the shoes so I can lube it properly.

Thanks for your help, guys!!

ezone

Well, that explains that.




No wonder it didn't work 100% for you!


I actually use a small bent pocket screwdriver to sneak the grease in there, and I do it without removing the shoes....but it isn't my first rodeo either.
The 4 upper points are where most of the noise would come from. The 2 at the bottom have very little shoe movement on them, so probably less critical.

Yes, if you weren't successful this time then certainly you may need to pull the shoes all the way off to apply the lube properly. I guess you'll know in another 6 months, right?

Good luck

JJ291

Also have to remember to adjust the emergency brake or it will "scrape". Be sure to check that if all the 'lube' doesn't work.

04 Honda Civic

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Also if the drum was grooved up it is probably what is making the noise.
Even if the pads are new.