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Anyone else ever have a problem with their auto-down windows stopping every few inches?

If I make it go up and down manually half a dozen times it goes away for a while.

 
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Honda's have a reputation of their power windows sticking. I guess that's a trade off of having the seals on their windows like they do. (Ever seen a Honda window or sunroof leak? at least one in the last 10 years?) Anyway, if you don't want to deal with fooling with the dealer to fix it. I was recommended by my winodow tinter on my last two Honda's to use 100% silicon spray on the window seals. The auto down feature uses voltage sensing to tell when the window is all the way down. The module notices a draw in the voltage and assumes that it is down and stops the process. Try some silcone spray (make sure its 100% silicon) don't use armor all or any crap like that. That should eliminate your problem. I heard it happens more fruqeuntly if you drive with your windows down a lot.

 
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I'll have to give that a try. It sounds much better than having the dealer tear my door apart!

Thanks

 
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it could also be a bad window motor, thats been a somewhat common problems with the 7th gen civics.

 
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I had the samething happen to me. I took it to the dealer twice and both times they said they could not duplicate the problem. Then after telling them to keep the car untiol they could fix the problem they found it and replaced the motor. My car was at the dealer for a week and they still could not find my stereo problem. Ooh well hope this helps, just tell them to keep it until they find it.

Trev

 
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<< The auto down feature uses voltage sensing to tell when the window is all the way down. The module notices a draw in the voltage and assumes that it is down and stops the process. >>



not to be too technical...i would think that they would use current sensing since if the window reaches the bottom..the motor will still continue hence the voltage will remain constant...while the current rises...
hehe...sorry about that..hhehehe

 
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<< I had the samething happen to me. I took it to the dealer twice and both times they said they could not duplicate the problem.

Trev >>




This is what I'm afraid of, since the problem goes away after a few ups and downs.

 
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Einstein, I still think that it is the seals around your window. It happened to both of my previous Hondas. I would give the silicon a try, its only a few $$. The motor problems that people may be having are a result of the window seals. The seals put a strain on the window and make the motor work harder which eventually causes the motor to burn up. Maybe after your window going up and down a few times it loosens up the seals and allows them to work trouble-free for a while??? I don't know about it only doing it for a while and then working.. I dunno about that.. Mine always did it.

 
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Update--

I have had my S2000 since April, and the only problem I have had with it is the AUTO-DOWN driver's side window is failing, just like it did on the Civic.

Bad part is, well over HALF of the S2000 owners responding to the poll said they have the same problem!!!

http://www.s2ki.com/forums/showthrea...threadid=71899

 
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LEMme just tell ya the windows on hondas ar dumb as hell, have always been, in my 1992 accord my passenger window barely rolled up, had to roll it down then up then down then up and if it started to rain i would have to push it up and press the button, honda sucked at making windows but everythings else is good, BTW grease or silicone spray works wonders.

 
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Silicon won't do me a bit of good. I have no window frame on my S2000!!! [IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]

 
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i have the same problem, only mine only shows up when its cold outside, i.e., winter. when that happens, i just hold it down like i do the passenger side window, it wont hurt anything to do that so its not that big of a deal. round spring it stopped. the silicone lube sounds like itll do the trickk though. ill have to try it.

 
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HERE IS THE REASON WHY!

Our cars have a strange charging system that does not charge under certain conditions. When the alternator is not charging, the auto window doesnt work. The best way to find out if the window is at fault or if it is normal, is to try the auto roll down at night with the headlights on and the car running. It should work fine. The auto roll down feature will get worse with the age of the car. The other times that it should work are:

1-RPM's above 3000
2-decelerating
3-headlights, turn signals, or A/C turned on
4-occasionally when sitting still with the engine running.

This charging system in our cars is also responsible for the factory batteries wearing out so quickly. Hondas uses this charging system for fuel economy. Stupid japanese cars!

 
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Just to let you all know, there is now a new window motor for the S2000, in which the motor-mounted sensor that causes the failure is updated. The new motor part number ends in -03, signifying a second design change (supposedly they got it right)

I had this part installed in my S2000 under warranty. For the last month or so the window has been working fine.

Maybe they have the same update for the civic?

 
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Mine did the same thing as well, but after talking to the dealer they said there's a roll up/down sensor on our windows that sometimes needs to be reset. To reset, w/ window closed press the button all way down (in auto mode) and hold until window is fully open/all the way down, then pull the button/switch up and roll all the way up and immediately let go when the window is fully closed. This worked for me, but I'm not sure if its dumb luck and the dealer didn't want to deal w/ me, but thought I'd share in case it actually is true and can work for everybody else. All I know it has worked for me since, and the few times here and there when my window gets stuck, this method always works for me.

 
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i used to have this problem too....

it started with the power windows getting noisy...(i hear some kind of gear grinding sound that goes clunk clunk clunk ever so often)

after about a month after the noise appeared, the auto down started malfunctioning...(goes down a few inches then stops)

i noticed that if i roll the window up and down a few times, the problem goes away til the next day. (the noisy window is still there though)....even though the window will auto down, the window didnt move down smoothly...it'll go down til about half way then slow down then speed up again...

i showed my dealer the problem when i got my oil changed..he squirted silicone stuff all over the tracks...

same autodown problem was back the next day...so i showed the dealer again...the service manager told me it was normal for hondas to do it cuz the run channel was dirty...

so my argument was that he already cleaned my run channel and that since honda advertises it as an auto down feature, mine must be malfunctioning since it's not autodown when it takes several presses of the button to get the window down....anyways, the service manager agreed to fix the window since he couldnt come up with a better argument..hehe....

i just wanted them to open up the door to find what's causing that annoying clunk....instead he told me that they'll replace the whole run channel and motor....

anyways, it's been one weeks since i've gotten the window fixed...everything works fine now....the motor sounds a bit different...perhaps honda changed the motor model used in the power windows...no more noisy clunks and no more window slowing down halfway...


btw, how does the honda window regulators work? i've tried using my hand to pull on the window before...the motor was strong enough to keep pulling down even though i was gripping it...

 
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A thousand diff. opinions, I am interested what cowboycivic said though.. any more insight/info on this?

 
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i dont think the charging should make enough of a dif...

car batteries are capable of outputting lots and lots of current...much more than whan a power window motor needs....

the voltage might be higher when the car is running but 12 from the battery should be enough for the window to roll down....

if the battery is in good condition, it will provide enough current to the power window motor without making the battery voltage drop....

 
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Since my motor was updated a few months ago with the new part I told you about, the auto-down has never missed a beat.

Exercising the window makes it go away temporarily. Lubricating the window track repeatedly is just plain silly.

Look for the permanent fix at your dealer, tell them you need the NEW window motor part number, just like the -003 part per the TSB that covers the S2000 by replacing the defective manufacturer's part with a newly qualified part.

 
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yeah..i'm thinking it's the motor now too cuz my passenger side is starting to do the same thing the driver side does...


goes down unsmoothly and is noisy

 
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it happened to me, and it was just the motor needed replacing