Suzuki swift - b or h serie swap - possible??
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Suzuki swift - b or h serie swap - possible??
Hello Civic owners!
with all of your great knowledge, would anyone know if it is possible to swap in a b or h serie in an Suzuki Swift 2016 model.
I dont care if you bring hate or unrelated meanings.
im just curious to know for the nearest future plans....
with all of your great knowledge, would anyone know if it is possible to swap in a b or h serie in an Suzuki Swift 2016 model.
I dont care if you bring hate or unrelated meanings.
im just curious to know for the nearest future plans....
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Re: Suzuki swift - b or h serie swap - possible??
A 2016? So a 2 year old car? Most states/provinces dont allow older engines to be swapped because of emission laws. With a ton of custom fab work anything is possible...
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Yes. I know it sounds silly. Just asking for advise... but would you think custom mounts would do it?
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Re: Suzuki swift - b or h serie swap - possible??
Suzuki as a car company is nonexistent in USA, we haven't seen any cars of theirs since....I think 2012 was their last year here....pretty sure they have pulled their car sales out of Canada as well.
Suzuki and Honda are two completely different car manufacturers, as far as I know they don't share any major components.....
so an engine swap or complete drivetrain swap would have to be completely fabricated from scratch.
A sawzall and a welder may become your best friends LOL
Suzuki and Honda are two completely different car manufacturers, as far as I know they don't share any major components.....
so an engine swap or complete drivetrain swap would have to be completely fabricated from scratch.
A sawzall and a welder may become your best friends LOL
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Suzuki as a car company is nonexistent in USA, we haven't seen any cars of theirs since....I think 2012 was their last year here....pretty sure they have pulled their car sales out of Canada as well.
Suzuki and Honda are two completely different car manufacturers, as far as I know they don't share any major components.....
so an engine swap or complete drivetrain swap would have to be completely fabricated from scratch.
A sawzall and a welder may become your best friends LOL
Suzuki and Honda are two completely different car manufacturers, as far as I know they don't share any major components.....
so an engine swap or complete drivetrain swap would have to be completely fabricated from scratch.
A sawzall and a welder may become your best friends LOL
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Since your brain skipped the info, most emissions laws would prevent old engines in New chassis.
Regardless, what is difficult is not the engine, it's the chassis and it's electronics. Therefore, you should ask that in a Suzuki forum, not Honda.
Regardless, what is difficult is not the engine, it's the chassis and it's electronics. Therefore, you should ask that in a Suzuki forum, not Honda.
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^OP is in Denmark
US EPA rules don't apply.....check your local regulations
US EPA rules don't apply.....check your local regulations
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I've definitely seen some crazy swaps before. B-series in the back of an original mini, k-series in a suzuki samurai.
Quick google tells me that a k20 fits in the engine bay of a swift. I'd rather go K than B or H, personally.
https://www.engineswapdepot.com/?p=8687
my goodness that's a tight fit. lol
Quick google tells me that a k20 fits in the engine bay of a swift. I'd rather go K than B or H, personally.
https://www.engineswapdepot.com/?p=8687
my goodness that's a tight fit. lol
The motor was installed using custom motor mounts and some cutting on the radiator support to clear the intake. The change has given the car an extra 100 whp on a stock motor and the tremendous aftermarket support of the K-series engines.
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Re: Suzuki swift - b or h serie swap - possible??
You'll need to measure the engine compartment to make sure the engine and transmission will clear the
-frame
-sub frame
-firewall
-bumper
You'll also need to locate the engine mount bolt holes and see if you can make engine mounts which can hold the Honda engine, in the Suzuki frame.
If this is not possible then you will need to create new holes in the frame/sub frame which can support the mounts used; this will mean selecting areas which have enough structural integrity to support a mount, or reinforcing areas a the frame to support the mounts/engine.
You will also need the engines original ecu and wiring harness.
One of the main issues will be getting the gauge cluster to work.
either by
Using the suzuki cluster and trying to get the honda wiring from the engine to work with that cluster
or
Using a honda cluster which will plug into the honda wiring harness but will need to be fitted to the interior of the suzuki.
All is possible with enough motivation; good luck.
-frame
-sub frame
-firewall
-bumper
You'll also need to locate the engine mount bolt holes and see if you can make engine mounts which can hold the Honda engine, in the Suzuki frame.
If this is not possible then you will need to create new holes in the frame/sub frame which can support the mounts used; this will mean selecting areas which have enough structural integrity to support a mount, or reinforcing areas a the frame to support the mounts/engine.
You will also need the engines original ecu and wiring harness.
One of the main issues will be getting the gauge cluster to work.
either by
Using the suzuki cluster and trying to get the honda wiring from the engine to work with that cluster
or
Using a honda cluster which will plug into the honda wiring harness but will need to be fitted to the interior of the suzuki.
All is possible with enough motivation; good luck.
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You'll need to measure the engine compartment to make sure the engine and transmission will clear the
-frame
-sub frame
-firewall
-bumper
You'll also need to locate the engine mount bolt holes and see if you can make engine mounts which can hold the Honda engine, in the Suzuki frame.
If this is not possible then you will need to create new holes in the frame/sub frame which can support the mounts used; this will mean selecting areas which have enough structural integrity to support a mount, or reinforcing areas a the frame to support the mounts/engine.
You will also need the engines original ecu and wiring harness.
One of the main issues will be getting the gauge cluster to work.
either by
Using the suzuki cluster and trying to get the honda wiring from the engine to work with that cluster
or
Using a honda cluster which will plug into the honda wiring harness but will need to be fitted to the interior of the suzuki.
All is possible with enough motivation; good luck.
-frame
-sub frame
-firewall
-bumper
You'll also need to locate the engine mount bolt holes and see if you can make engine mounts which can hold the Honda engine, in the Suzuki frame.
If this is not possible then you will need to create new holes in the frame/sub frame which can support the mounts used; this will mean selecting areas which have enough structural integrity to support a mount, or reinforcing areas a the frame to support the mounts/engine.
You will also need the engines original ecu and wiring harness.
One of the main issues will be getting the gauge cluster to work.
either by
Using the suzuki cluster and trying to get the honda wiring from the engine to work with that cluster
or
Using a honda cluster which will plug into the honda wiring harness but will need to be fitted to the interior of the suzuki.
All is possible with enough motivation; good luck.
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You'll need to measure the engine compartment to make sure the engine and transmission will clear the
-frame
-sub frame
-firewall
-bumper
You'll also need to locate the engine mount bolt holes and see if you can make engine mounts which can hold the Honda engine, in the Suzuki frame.
If this is not possible then you will need to create new holes in the frame/sub frame which can support the mounts used; this will mean selecting areas which have enough structural integrity to support a mount, or reinforcing areas a the frame to support the mounts/engine.
You will also need the engines original ecu and wiring harness.
One of the main issues will be getting the gauge cluster to work.
either by
Using the suzuki cluster and trying to get the honda wiring from the engine to work with that cluster
or
Using a honda cluster which will plug into the honda wiring harness but will need to be fitted to the interior of the suzuki.
All is possible with enough motivation; good luck.
-frame
-sub frame
-firewall
-bumper
You'll also need to locate the engine mount bolt holes and see if you can make engine mounts which can hold the Honda engine, in the Suzuki frame.
If this is not possible then you will need to create new holes in the frame/sub frame which can support the mounts used; this will mean selecting areas which have enough structural integrity to support a mount, or reinforcing areas a the frame to support the mounts/engine.
You will also need the engines original ecu and wiring harness.
One of the main issues will be getting the gauge cluster to work.
either by
Using the suzuki cluster and trying to get the honda wiring from the engine to work with that cluster
or
Using a honda cluster which will plug into the honda wiring harness but will need to be fitted to the interior of the suzuki.
All is possible with enough motivation; good luck.
also figure out which trans to use. etc.
02-22-2018
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Re: Suzuki swift - b or h serie swap - possible??
Installing an engine made before the car is illegal in the USA. But to answer your question if it’s possible to do the swap, I’m sure it’s possible if you have an unlimited amount of time and money. That doesn’t mean it’s practical though. As far as I know, no one has done it, so I don’t know what problems you may run into. You’ll definitely have to make custom parts, including custom wiring, and there will no doubt be problems along the way. Cost effective? No. Doing the swap would certainly cost more than the car is worth. I’m not telling you to not do it if you really want to, but doing a swap like this would be quite difficult, expensive and impractical.
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