Evo8 vs. 350z??
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Originally Posted by ajhdragon
how would an EVO be a compromise over the 350z? They are about the same price. And stock for stock an EVO will beat a 350 in just about every raceing category like drag and auto-x, and I seriously doubt he is looking to do drifting but an EVO can even do that. IMO the 350z is a car for the wanna be tuner with money. As for you FATF comments look at the new one yup all about the 350z.
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I don't understand why everyone is so against admitting the Evo 8 is a bit ricey? I agree 100% that it's an amazing PERFORMING car, but as for looks its got that wanna-be-street-racer look to it. Its still a sedan with a big *** wing though.
I am not making a point on performance, its a spectacular car with that respect, but with the way it is styled is disappointing.
I am not making a point on performance, its a spectacular car with that respect, but with the way it is styled is disappointing.
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Originally Posted by diskreet
I don't understand why everyone is so against admitting the Evo 8 is a bit ricey? I agree 100% that it's an amazing PERFORMING car, but as for looks its got that wanna-be-street-racer look to it. Its still a sedan with a big *** wing though.
I am not making a point on performance, its a spectacular car with that respect, but with the way it is styled is disappointing.
I am not making a point on performance, its a spectacular car with that respect, but with the way it is styled is disappointing.
as for the big *** wing dont they have them 2 from where the oringally came from? i mean it fits the car...same crap as the sti and its wing..
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my cousin has the greddy TT setup on his 04 Z, to date its about 420hp to the wheels. He was one of the first people to have it. It went from 280ish I think to 420 so thats a 140hp gain.
now lets take the EVO that also has 280ish stock and drop that same 13grand into it. Well since its a more popular and I must say proven engine parts are alot cheaper and more avalible. You can completly build it run turbo, exhaust and fuel updrages as well. And easily get more than 420hp in an AWD car.
now lets take the EVO that also has 280ish stock and drop that same 13grand into it. Well since its a more popular and I must say proven engine parts are alot cheaper and more avalible. You can completly build it run turbo, exhaust and fuel updrages as well. And easily get more than 420hp in an AWD car.
The greddy TT kit is good to 450whp when tuned properly. The Z engine can produce up to 1200-1400hp, you could probably buy both a Z and an evo for the cost to get there though. As I said the potential for the Z is greater than the Evo.
Remember kids, "there's no replacement for displacement".
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Rep Power: 355 the EVO's have always had the wing. Ive never seen an EVO I or II but i know from EVO III on they have had them. They serve a purpose to hold down the rearend and help in handeling. Same with the STi's. But if you want an EVO with no wing just get an RS. As for being a Sedan whats wrong with that? If makeing a sedan have power is rice then i guess most major car companies are gearing everything towards rice. Like the Mazdaspeed6, Volvo s80, Audi A4, and all kinds of other manufacturers. 4 doors are just more convienent and have better body structure than coupes. thats why they made the EVO a 4 door.
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Does anyone else think the EVO is more childish and immature, while the 350z is a more sophisticated and grown-up car?
Take the audi S4 or even RS4. They both are tremendously better cars than the evo. They both LOOK spectacular. The RS4 is in a league of its own, near Ferrari terrirory. But what? They have no wing.
See audi didn't comprimise looks for performance. They did both, because they make a better sports sedan.
I know the evo has a wing cause of its rally heritage, but that doesnt mean its nice looking.
Originally Posted by ajhdragon
the EVO's have always had the wing. Ive never seen an EVO I or II but i know from EVO III on they have had them. They serve a purpose to hold down the rearend and help in handeling. Same with the STi's. But if you want an EVO with no wing just get an RS. As for being a Sedan whats wrong with that? If makeing a sedan have power is rice then i guess most major car companies are gearing everything towards rice. Like the Mazdaspeed6, Volvo s80, Audi A4, and all kinds of other manufacturers. 4 doors are just more convienent and have better body structure than coupes. thats why they made the EVO a 4 door.
See audi didn't comprimise looks for performance. They did both, because they make a better sports sedan.
I know the evo has a wing cause of its rally heritage, but that doesnt mean its nice looking.
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Does anyone else think the EVO is more childish and immature, while the 350z is a more sophisticated and grown-up car?
Exactly! These guys are the Vin Diesel fans that have his posters up in their rooms and the fast and furious memorized.
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Rep Power: 228 NOT REALLY, GIRLS/WOMEN ARE NOT THE SAME A KIDS. YOU CAN HAVE YOUR ONE WOMAN, ILL TAKE FOUR ANYDAY... HECK IM SURE I COULD HAVE MORE FUN IN THE BACK SEAT OF THE EVO THAN A 350Z... WAIT DOES IT EVEN HAVE ONE??? IM A MAN, I LIKE WOMEN, THE MORE THE BETTER, AND SINCE I HAVE NO PROBLEM HOOKING UP W/ MULTIPLE WOMEN/GIRLS CALL WHAT YOU WANT AND ONE TIME ILL DO IT.
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Wait! Im not a stereotypical male. I would rather have 1 woman that has a good personality and looks good, than 4 hot women that are morons.
Sorry, my parents just raised me better than that.
Sorry, my parents just raised me better than that.
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Rep Power: 228 THATS A GOOD THING TO YOU. THANKS TO GUYS LIKE YOU I CAN BE THE THE STEREOTYPICAL GUY AND GET ALL THE GIRLS THAT ARE SINGLE AND MORONS. ITS ALL THE SAME TO ME. LESS MONEY TOO. TAKE THEM FOR A RIDE AND DROP'M OFF.
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Well finding a woman worth spending your life with is near impossible. I want a family some day. I want a wife and kids. But women are so trained to not trust anyone, or even become ****s themselves, its nearly impossible to find this.
I am not pointing my finger at you, but if guys want to be better than stupid stereotypes, they ACTUALLY have to be better than the stereotypes.
I don't think its hard to find girls, its actually ridiculously easy, but its hard to find a girl worth being in a relationship with. And I like relationships, I like the support, getting my clothes washed, having food made for me, and so on. I don't mind actually respecting a woman if she does the same.
I have a ton of friends who are the same way about women as you, and most are just too macho to admit they want to connect to a woman on more than a purely sexual level, despite most of them wanting that. I don't know about you but this is my experience on this subject.
I am not pointing my finger at you, but if guys want to be better than stupid stereotypes, they ACTUALLY have to be better than the stereotypes.
I don't think its hard to find girls, its actually ridiculously easy, but its hard to find a girl worth being in a relationship with. And I like relationships, I like the support, getting my clothes washed, having food made for me, and so on. I don't mind actually respecting a woman if she does the same.
I have a ton of friends who are the same way about women as you, and most are just too macho to admit they want to connect to a woman on more than a purely sexual level, despite most of them wanting that. I don't know about you but this is my experience on this subject.
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anyways, i'd go for the 350z.. it has a more sophisticated look to it. OR might even consider G35 if you really like deep-dish wheels... g35 coupe all black w/ deep dish .... thats a car worth drooling over
anyways, i'd go for the 350z.. it has a more sophisticated look to it. OR might even consider G35 if you really like deep-dish wheels... g35 coupe all black w/ deep dish .... thats a car worth drooling over
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Originally Posted by diskreet
Does anyone else think the EVO is more childish and immature, while the 350z is a more sophisticated and grown-up car?
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Originally Posted by ajhdragon
the EVO's have always had the wing. Ive never seen an EVO I or II but i know from EVO III on they have had them. They serve a purpose to hold down the rearend and help in handeling. Same with the STi's. But if you want an EVO with no wing just get an RS. As for being a Sedan whats wrong with that? If makeing a sedan have power is rice then i guess most major car companies are gearing everything towards rice. Like the Mazdaspeed6, Volvo s80, Audi A4, and all kinds of other manufacturers. 4 doors are just more convienent and have better body structure than coupes. thats why they made the EVO a 4 door.
I really dont find it a childish car. It looks a little over the top, but fast and the furious fans are busy trying to make a normal lancer looking like and evo, or something on that level of stupidness. Ive always been in the love with the car ever since I was young and first sat down and played GT2. And all through the driving simulator games you just have to appreciate how you can put it up to almost an car of equal price and it blows it away (except of course the Sti competitor). Id consider the evo unrefined as far as an everyday car, not childish.
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Originally Posted by ajhdragon
ask yourself this one question. Who is the 350z geared to and who is the EVO geared to? The 350 is marketed towards middle aged men who want something sporty with decent performane. The EVO is an all out sports car greared towards anybody who wants a right out of the box performance car. the 350 has more crap to choose from then the EVO, but the EVO eats it alive in every category performance wise. It is a performance car made to be fast, nothign on it is on there except to make it faster. Where the 350z is just ment to be eye pleasing, and give its owner the fell of power when not really doing it. It is way over priced for what you get.
You definitely have a good point about who the Z is marketed to, but I do feel that the Evo is geared more toward a young crowd.
I don't think the Z is priced poorly either. Its a great car for the price. It's not supposed to be an all out sports car. Its a sports car with some luxury and refinement. That I guess is the major difference. I would give up a tiny bit of performance for a little luxury (dont think I want a luxury car, no way).
The Z, at least in my opinion, has a good presence too. When I am around an Evo I am thinking "Oh. Another evo." But around a Z I am like "Thats a nice car." maybe its me, but what I am saying is all opinion so there is no wrong or right.
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Rep Power: 355 ok so lets sum this whole thread up and make it easier to decide
350z
Sports luxury with convertable option
V6 thats hard to work on
reliable car
easy to find a good used one
RWD
EVO
Sports Sedan thats total perfromance
Easy to modify
Proven engine
Hard to find a good used one
AWD
Both cars are nice, I would choose a G35 over a 350z just purly on looks, but EVO is my choice because of its 4doors and AWD.
350z
Sports luxury with convertable option
V6 thats hard to work on
reliable car
easy to find a good used one
RWD
EVO
Sports Sedan thats total perfromance
Easy to modify
Proven engine
Hard to find a good used one
AWD
Both cars are nice, I would choose a G35 over a 350z just purly on looks, but EVO is my choice because of its 4doors and AWD.
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Originally Posted by diskreet
The Z, at least in my opinion, has a good presence too. When I am around an Evo I am thinking "Oh. Another evo." But around a Z I am like "Thats a nice car." maybe its me, but what I am saying is all opinion so there is no wrong or right.
Originally Posted by ajhdragon
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Both cars are nice, I would choose a G35 over a 350z just purly on looks, but EVO is my choice because of its 4doors and AWD.
Both cars are nice, I would choose a G35 over a 350z just purly on looks, but EVO is my choice because of its 4doors and AWD.
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it's vice versa for me only b/c i dont see many evo8s
The evo is marketed to the younger crowd. Next time you see one, look whos driving it as compared to the Z owners. And the evo has issues due in part to having little to work with from the beginning.
Heres an article on one in a 40,000 mi test.
http://www.caranddriver.com/longroad...tion-viii.html
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Originally Posted by spoonJDMlX
evo is junk. you get ina crash w/ an evo your DEAD. atlest 350 is somewhat safe unlike the evo.
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Evo vs. 350z
.4 faster 0-60 (partly attributed to the 200 lbs less)
1 faster in the quarter
4-6 grand more
marketed to the fast and furious crowd
useless spoiler
.4 faster 0-60 (partly attributed to the 200 lbs less)
1 faster in the quarter
4-6 grand more
marketed to the fast and furious crowd
useless spoiler
ohh yeah, useless spoiler? Don't like it, take it off. People do that all the time. Just less downforce for you.
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The 350z is a boring car. What is so special about a naturally aspirated V6 rear wheel drive car? You might as well just buy a new mustang (at least it has more power). The Evo accelerates, stops, and turns faster than the 350z and costs about the same. The Evo is already turbocharged and the stock engine is strong enough to hold up to 500 HP which means it is VERY easy to make it fast (i.e. turn up the boost and throw in some race gas) where with the 350z you will have to spend THOUSANDS of dollars just for a turbo/supercharger kit. Even after you have spent alot of money on the 350z it will still not be able to get any grip (due to the two wheel drive). The only thing that I like about the Z is it's weight distribution (almost 50/50). The Evo is pretty much superior to the Z in every way imaginable (from a racing standpoint). Alot of you kids in here are very, very, VERY misinformed about the Evo, and automobiles in general. Please make sure you indeed know what you are talking about before you give out advice or a recommendation.
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