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Old Jan 22, 2006
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I only feel a strain when the a/c is turned on. Since I have a DX I can't watch the needle on the tach I would have drop so I don't know if the rpms go down. I have topped out gears with the heat on and it feels the same (90mph in 3rd) It seems to accelerate the same. About the blinkers and the windshield wipers causing a damper thats unheard of to me. You guys must have shitty batteries or something, I dunno. The only thing I've noticed is that you can't catch 2nd or 3rd no matter how much you rev it with the a/c on. But I guess thats normal...?
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when the gas is pressed down moderately, it turns the a/c off with acceleration which would explain why you didn't feel a difference.
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Oh all right.
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Old Jan 22, 2006
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get turbo man, that makes it all go away.. a/c lag replaces by turbo lag. ppssshh
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Um okay do you have a grand I can borrow for a shitty eBay D series turbo? haha. And there is actually a way to take that lag away when you press the gas. You know how you floor it and is in fact goes slower and then picks up. It because something has to go through something else before it goes somewhere. Hahaha, sorry I cant be more specific, some dude at the gearhead hangout showed me that he re-lined something and it took away that lag. I wasn't really listening tho...so...sorry.
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yeah i have the same problem..when there is too many things going on at once and it doesnt have to be more then 1 thing either to make it slower...sometimes i try and jump up and down hoping it can make it sometimes...
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I really think the electrical system is bad on our cars. I have never had electrical problems in a car, even in my '87 camery that I still can't see how it still runs(250+K). I've tried almost everything to get my healights to stop dimming alot when I use the heat/ac, besides getting HID or a new alternator (which I'm considering). Does anyone know a good alternator to replace ours or even if it would help?
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Old Jan 23, 2006
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has someone tried turning on everything at the same time to see what happens? haha
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ill do it when i leave work for lunch and ill let you know!lol
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Originally Posted by White0nGold
since i have an exhaust, u and i have my car parked, but on when i turn the wheel, u can ACTUALLY hear the power steering rev up my engine,

I was just going to say that! Ever since I put mine on a few days ago when Im parked and i turn the wheel it idles louder, but I dont see any indication on the tach, must be too slight.
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when I had my D17, my motto was "all go, no show". There was nothing I did that sacrificed my "go" for "show".

some of you should try some of my suggestions ... if you don't do it permanently, then at least try it out for about 2 weeks before you go back:

- gut your trunk. No subs, no spare, no cardboard mat, nothing.
- get lightweight rims. put your stock ones on if you have them ... 99 Si/03 EX is preferable.
- get some NGK iridiums and make SURE they are correctly torqued at 13 ft/lb.
- get a cai ... no short rams! ... and make sure your intake pipe does NOT touch the throttle body
- do your throttle body coolant bypass
- if you can, use a 0w20 or 0w30 full synthetic oil. mobil 1, amsoil, eneos, etc.

a good setup can mean a world of difference vs. a bad setup, especially when you are comparing the same type of car.

with my d17, I kept up with my friend's 01 dx k20a3 with cai, exhaust with my 02 ex. we raced and were dead even until about 65 ... then he pulled 1 car by 80/85. I had an ebay cai, ebay high-flow "cat" and rsr ex-mag exhaust at the time... also cf hood, trunk and 11.5 pound battery ;P
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Old Jan 23, 2006
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I can see it now, you line up to a car you're about to race, he gases it, and you hear the blowoff valve, and possibly purges his nitrous. Then you look over at him, give him the what's up look, turn off your a/c and prepare to race....lol..funny as hell but can't say that i haven't turned off my a/c while trying to race someone thinking it might give me an extra nudge...lol.
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the plugs and coolant bypass don't do anything for more power. i agree with the small rims and removing non-essential items.
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they put iridiums as stock in the k20 engines. must do something.
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Yes it sucks that any time anything is running it drains alot of power.
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Originally Posted by tmac14
Yes it sucks that any time anything is running it drains alot of power.
i run everything all the time and its fine. the only thing that makes a difference is the a/c.
fogs, headlights, radio loudly, wipers. everything is fine.
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i was in front of a car with my parking lights on and you know when the windows are up already but you wanna make sure, well i pulled just one window switch up for a second and the lights dimmed to about 1/2 brightness til i let go. i wonder if they would turn off if i did all four switches! lol
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Originally Posted by gearbox
i was in front of a car with my parking lights on and you know when the windows are up already but you wanna make sure, well i pulled just one window switch up for a second and the lights dimmed to about 1/2 brightness til i let go. i wonder if they would turn off if i did all four switches! lol
i don't believe it.
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i don't believe it.
why not? that's what happens
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ya um i can do a video if you want.
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the girl i live with has a 02 LX Sedan Auto, she has the defroster one yesterday, and i was in the passenger seat and i wanted to see what would happen if i rolled up the window(it was already up like gearbox) and the fan speed dropped about half the speed and her windsheild wipers slowed down too. im sure the lights dimmed too but it was during the day so i couldnt tell.
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is this all a sign of bad grounds?

my civic does similar things to this too ... but I have an 11.5 pound battery to blame.
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i thinks its a sign of crappy alt
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yup its the alternator. it cant provide 14v power so everything downgrades to the 12v battery.
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interesting ........

I wonder if a different alternator can be used ...
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Originally Posted by aznboysrfr
when I had my D17, my motto was "all go, no show". There was nothing I did that sacrificed my "go" for "show".

some of you should try some of my suggestions ... if you don't do it permanently, then at least try it out for about 2 weeks before you go back:

- gut your trunk. No subs, no spare, no cardboard mat, nothing.
- get lightweight rims. put your stock ones on if you have them ... 99 Si/03 EX is preferable.
- get some NGK iridiums and make SURE they are correctly torqued at 13 ft/lb.
- get a cai ... no short rams! ... and make sure your intake pipe does NOT touch the throttle body
- do your throttle body coolant bypass
- if you can, use a 0w20 or 0w30 full synthetic oil. mobil 1, amsoil, eneos, etc.

a good setup can mean a world of difference vs. a bad setup, especially when you are comparing the same type of car.

with my d17, I kept up with my friend's 01 dx k20a3 with cai, exhaust with my 02 ex. we raced and were dead even until about 65 ... then he pulled 1 car by 80/85. I had an ebay cai, ebay high-flow "cat" and rsr ex-mag exhaust at the time... also cf hood, trunk and 11.5 pound battery ;P
Oh, that's why you are so thin.

Pretty bad when you go on a diet and race naked just to loose that extra 2 pounds.

Oh.... oh god... the visuals.... I gotta go.
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Originally Posted by aznboysrfr
interesting ........

I wonder if a different alternator can be used ...
You can get a heavy duty version of that alternator. I have seen them re-wound for 100 amps. You could bypass the ELD as well. That would cause the alternator to always charge, like a regular car. But that would in turn lower you mileage a little from the constant drag.
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i would rather have a dimming faster car than a normal slower car.
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I forgot to mention that I'm also using an alternator from the jdm rsx's

my lights still flicker when I press the window down or up buttons ...

again, I blame it on my tiny battery
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I forgot to mention that I'm also using an alternator from the jdm rsx's

my lights still flicker when I press the window down or up buttons ...

again, I blame it on my tiny battery
is the alternator too big of a pulley on it or too small?
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