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Old Jan 22, 2006
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the funny thing is gearbox i noticed this 2night and i pointed it out 2 my friend.....who would not shut the f*ck up, but thats a different story. i was winding up the back 2 windows at the same time and my headlights got uber dim. i was like hey look a drop in voltage! lol
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Originally Posted by mugenman
the funny thing is gearbox i noticed this 2night and i pointed it out 2 my friend.....who would not shut the f*ck up, but thats a different story. i was winding up the back 2 windows at the same time and my headlights got uber dim. i was like hey look a drop in voltage! lol
post a thread... LOL...

well gearbox, just let your car run for a while especially on cold days. you can sense that the engine would feel much smoother and it won't feel as rough after 3 minutes or so of warming up. dude am i making any sense here? i just have to say that lol.

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I'd much rather have the lights dim and the rpm's drop a bit when I roll up my windows then what happened with my Alero.
Next time you see an Alero, or a Grand Am, Look at the windows! They put the trackers too close to the close, so it scratches the hell out of the windows, and burns out the power window motor.
We have it pretty good with the civics...for every problem I have with this car, I had 5 with my Alero.
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Old Jan 22, 2006
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It's just Gearbox. He messed with a very delicate balance in his car, and now, just like global warming, he's suffering the consequences. Keep the coinbox empty for that extra surge in power.

I must be lucky, Mine runs great, even with the AC on.
I should point out that compared to my 85 Nissan 4X4 (incredibly tough, but the definition of SLUG) the Honda is a BULLET.
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It's just Gearbox. He messed with a very delicate balance in his car, and now, just like global warming, he's suffering the consequences. Keep the coinbox empty for that extra surge in power.

That made my day!
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When you have the Fan selction to Defrost (defrost/floor) the A/C pulley etc, runs even if you don't have the A/C button pushed.

I notice the power difference or drag, but drive stick which is alot more peppy than auto. Not sure..why anyone would buy AUTO with the engines 7thgens come with.
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i think my power windows have more power than the car itself lol. when they are up and i put them down, the door pops out, nad when i roll it up and it get to the top, it sucks the door back it......??
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^^ mine does the same. and i think my pass window motor is on its way out. cause sometimes i have to help it back up. but im still under warrenty so honda should fix that... i just hope they dont try to blame it on my speakers, since i took off my door panel. and my speakers were so big that i had to modify the door panel for it to stay on...( 1 small screw on the inside of the door ) is there a way to fix this dimming problem? grounding kit? cause i dont even have my amp/subs in my car and when my bass hits on my speakers my lights dim. you cant notice it much on the headlights, but def on the inside, my headunit is like a rave lol. same with my guages. its annoying... when i hook up my amp its gunna be even worse. i was thinking grounding kit and H/O Alt but i dont want to spend money on something that isnt going to work. dont have money to blow like that.
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Originally Posted by RangerMan
When you have the Fan selction to Defrost (defrost/floor) the A/C pulley etc, runs even if you don't have the A/C button pushed.

I notice the power difference or drag, but drive stick which is alot more peppy than auto. Not sure..why anyone would buy AUTO with the engines 7thgens come with.

b/c it was given to them as a gift from their parents maybe...
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Old Jan 22, 2006
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i just dont know how to drive stick well enough and didn't wanna ruin a new car.

i have upgraded harness and ground wires and it dims. the dimming is due to the alternator not able to meet the hefty power demands of rolling up windows or using turn signals. when that happens, everything diverts to the battery. the dimming you experience is the power going from 14v alternator to 12v battery which ofcourse is a voltage drop,.
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damn economy car... but i still love it.
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mine is a bit weak with the air on but I have never had a car that wasnt so I'm thinkin its normal. makes sense too as does the defroster and lights and other **** causing power loss. That renault I had used to have a charging system cutoff (illegal of course) and it really helped with acceleration, actually about the only thing that did really help. any engine power you use for things other then moving the car will reduce performance. its less noticable at high rpm because the loss by percentage goes down as power comes up. thats why 7thgen manual trans seem to have a hit in the power around 4k when the ac is on.
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Originally Posted by gearbox
i just dont know how to drive stick well enough and didn't wanna ruin a new car.

i have upgraded harness and ground wires and it dims. the dimming is due to the alternator not able to meet the hefty power demands of rolling up windows or using turn signals. when that happens, everything diverts to the battery. the dimming you experience is the power going from 14v alternator to 12v battery which ofcourse is a voltage drop,.
Wonder if the EL has the same Alt. I never have that issue of dimming..its common though with any small motor..specially standard.
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Old Jan 22, 2006
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eh, i have a manual and parked with the headlights on, uping the windows causes the headlights to dim. the motor is just to small to handle the electrical/ ac demands.
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Originally Posted by gearbox
i just dont know how to drive stick well enough and didn't wanna ruin a new car.

i have upgraded harness and ground wires and it dims. the dimming is due to the alternator not able to meet the hefty power demands of rolling up windows or using turn signals. when that happens, everything diverts to the battery. the dimming you experience is the power going from 14v alternator to 12v battery which ofcourse is a voltage drop,.
so if i get a h/o alternator will the dimming stop?
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the power steering i have noticed. but that happened in my 3.8 buick too.
the other stuff i might not notice, i have a 5 speed
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Sell Honda Civic, buy Honda CBR, problem solved, no need for rear defrost or AC, already fast as hell and cheap to boot, plus you get some manual transmission experience...

Heh, I kid..my 2K3 Civic had the same problem. I have a Mazda 3 now, if I push all 4 power window buttons at the same time I think that the headlights dim only very slightly, but in a barely-perceivable way, no rpm fluctuations and thats running a 2.3L block, still a 4cylinder as well.
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ha a/c is required where i live or i wouldn't be able to see out the windows. if i didn't need it i would already have the whole thing taken out.
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Yeah, so anyone know of a good High-output alt. to combat this ****? Also, what the hell good do grounding kits do? Just help the electricity disperse quicker?
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I've noticed that with the AC or defrost on, my take off suffers, but its like the gearing is better. Sometimes I leave it on just because its a more normal ride.
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Yeah, so anyone know of a good High-output alt. to combat this ****? Also, what the hell good do grounding kits do? Just help the electricity disperse quicker?
just go to a parts shot and ask. like auto zone or advanced auto parts. they have high output alternators they can sell you. be warned, it takes more power from the motor.
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ya just to get the dimming away, you're gonna end up losing precious hp.
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Dammit, HP is so scarce in these cars it is precious.
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But, what about the grounding kits?
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i don't care if my car is slow! i love it...stop complaining about your cars being slow and this...you guys then should have bought something else other than civic
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ehhemm, ****. Anyway, I used to have the same problem in my 83 grand prix(a tear.) V6 and power EVERYTHING. It's all about the alternator.
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ground wires are nice security so you don't get lights flickering and strange stuff happening. just makes sure everything electrical is working properly. won't help dimming thats an alt issue. and it helps if you sand the grounds for a better connection. i did a diy sometime ago.
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I don't think you have anything to worry about. The rear window defroster draws something like 20amps. This current draw is going to be noticed on our Civics, and any other car with a rear window defroster.

If you are concerned about your car, then you should take it and have someone do an electrical system check. For the 60K mile check-up, an electrical system check is one of the things that is recommended by Honda.
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yeah when the fan is set to defrost and floor the a/c light is on becasue it is a dummy setup cuz to defrost or drfog a window you have to take the moisture out of the it and that is what the a/c does.
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Originally Posted by Curiouz_G
in the end, its a commuter car and its not suppose to be powerful. civics are civics. slow, saves gas, and cheap to maintain. i also have a auto civics and i hate it b/c ALL of my friends have cars with 200+ hp. whenever we roll anywhere, im always flooring it just to catch up to their "crusing speed". use to bother me SOOO much but now, i dont care anymore. i just gave up and accepted that MY CAR IS SOOO ****ING SLOW THAT A AUTO NEON CAN SPANK ME. im done.
Are you kidding me, you can get beat by an auto neon. i ran equal with a 96 neon 2dr turboed with no problem with ac on. I drove a auto 05 civic i think and it felt fine for an automatic.
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