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vehical reliability results-this will end some discussions

http://money.cnn.com/2004/11/08/pf/a...lity/index.htm

Vehical reliability reports
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Thats great. I knew VW sucked.
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yup, mad posts about that lately ^
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I was soooo close to gettin an 00 jetta, glad I got my 01 vic
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he he he civics rule
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unbelievable, the automobile industry world is being reversed!
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unbelievable, the automobile industry world is being reversed!
Why do you say that?
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No surprise to me!! =) I'm glad I got a civic.
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i love my slow *** civic!! lol
i pity the owners of the s class and 7 series who wasted 100k on a nice looking piece of crap jaja
im amazed at vw the bettle was the most reliable car in the world back in the day
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wow, mazda3 on there? thats a surprise. pretty cool!
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Originally Posted by Steak84SS
Why do you say that?
because BMW, Benz WERE obviously reliable lexury cars, that is where their name came from. Now, they are only lexury but no more realiable...

Also, I thought VW was reliable in the past too...

Well, I think I will probably drive jap car for the next decades, I am too use to the honda reliability so that I probably can't accept any car that has problems all the time.
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^^^^ I'll be right there with ya driving my Japanese car. I'm pretty happy that the IS300 is high on the list. I love that car.
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new IS300

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^^^^ I'll be right there with ya driving my Japanese car. I'm pretty happy that the IS300 is high on the list. I love that car.

They will redesign IS300 in 2007, it will be a sport coupe and it will look extremely fancy! No more conservative IS300 sedan!
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And if you buy Jaguar you get Bmw. And still my civic rules.
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u buy jaguar, you get ford
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u buy jaguar, you get ford
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Do Ford engineers actauly design Jaquar? I thought it was still the original Jaquar people who does it
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Not sure, they own them, I know that. My friend is head mechanic at Land Rover which is also owned by all them. Land Rover / Jag is side by side at his work
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Land Rover /Jag where bought by BMW, in Jag diesel is BMW 3 series engine.
Land Rover uses some diesel engines from bmw.
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Is there a prove showing that Benz has its reliability dropped BECAUSE of Chrisler?

I wonder if Benz driver feel disgusted about the fact that their car is actually chrisler
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Wow this is quite a surprise. Not the Civic being reliable, but all those Euro-luxury cars rating poorly.
The only thing that sucks about this survey is this is based on '97 and up car models. I kinda wished they had even older cars that been through the test of time. I remember once seeing a forum for car owners who had the most kms on their car with the least problems. There were old Subarus with 400,000km etc.

My big question is how bad are the newest cars if they're not even a year old and already they are considered "unreliable" by their owners, that's just sad.
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haha now both domestic and euro cars are sucking it up. my parents just bought a jaguar s-type. i warned them.
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Originally Posted by orion_squall
Is there a prove showing that Benz has its reliability dropped BECAUSE of Chrisler?

I wonder if Benz driver feel disgusted about the fact that their car is actually chrisler
Chrylser is operated as a completely separate division of Daimler Chrysler. The quality of individual models are not be affected by the merger.

Also Chrysler did not acquire Benz, it was the other way around. All the top executives are German.

A few of the Chrysler products get halfway decent quality reviews, such as the PT Cruiser.
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The Corolla still beats out the Civic though. I wonder if the front double wishbone hadn't been replaced with the struts, if Civic's quality would have been even better.

Accord doesn't show up on the sedan list but Camry does. That is also troubling.
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Originally Posted by Trix
Land Rover /Jag where bought by BMW, in Jag diesel is BMW 3 series engine.
Land Rover uses some diesel engines from bmw.

Then BMW sold it to ford because they were losing way too much money because Land Rover and Jag was a money sink hole for them. Ford did a better job from a business stand point of bring back the brand.


As for the person that stated buying a jag is buying a ford. This isn't necesary true. Ford owns a big part of Mazda and suburu as well, but both had cars that were listed on as the most reliable on the list. Many imports have some kind of business relation with domestic auto makers. Honda and toyota are probably the only major imports that are completely independent from domestic auto makers. I'm not too sure about nissan.
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No wonder i heard this service manager at mercedes makes so much money

thats where im gonna work! possibly!
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