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Old 05-05-2004
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Civic = 6th most popular selling auto so far

Last Year I believe it dropped to 7, but so far it's back up #6. I thought with the new Neon and the Mazda 3 the sales might have been hurt...

Ford F-Series
200,661

Chevrolet Silverado
147,337

Dodge Ram
102,845

Toyota Camry / Camry Solara
96,180

Honda Accord
83,231

Honda Civic
73,149

Chevrolet Impala
72,624

Ford Taurus
68,679

Nissan Altima
63,029

Ford Explorer
60,195
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I am sure the 3 and the Neon will take some sales away from the Civic. After both of those cars are better equipped than the Civic, Honda has really gone down with the Civic. It is not competitive anymore.
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aparently it is if it is still #3, they just trade equipment for quality
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Trucks have always been at the top.
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this is USA.

honda must compete with national product....and also think about "isolated" people in your area.....nobody wanna buy import cars....some of em might even don't know about honda at all...

let's say....i was told by my local honda dealer that in some area, people "isolated" by people who bought non-domestic cars (imports), why? cos' everybody else in that area got a domestic car.....

make sense?

honda's merely number 1 or 2 in nearly all asian countries.... those who don't have domestic cars...

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Originally posted by MrWong
I am sure the 3 and the Neon will take some sales away from the Civic. After both of those cars are better equipped than the Civic, Honda has really gone down with the Civic. It is not competitive anymore.
Wow... If being the 3rd highest selling car in the country is "not competitive anymore" you can bet there ALOT of car companies out there that wish they were "not competitive anymore" either!
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like i said, in nearly all asian contries....honda rules....along with toyota, nissan, mitsubishi...mazda....all japanese..

hey, do you guys know, Ford sedan are all used as a taxi car in Indonesia?

well2.....can't compare it with merc taxi in europe though..
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Originally posted by zen_master
like i said, in nearly all asian contries....honda rules....along with toyota, nissan, mitsubishi...mazda....all japanese..

hey, do you guys know, Ford sedan are all used as a taxi car in Indonesia?

well2.....can't compare it with merc taxi in europe though..
I know when I saw Mercedes being used as a taxi in Spain I was like

I talked to another taxi cab driver of a Renault and he said the Mercedes was the lower end taxi.
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where did you get your stats from? and is this list only from the start of 2004 till now may? cuz i remember the civic had a record high of 330k sold in 2002. my stats came from honda.
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Originally posted by Jollysid
Wow... If being the 3rd highest selling car in the country is "not competitive anymore" you can bet there ALOT of car companies out there that wish they were "not competitive anymore" either!
Come on man, the Civic used to be a killer for sales. Since the introduction of 3, Civic sales are slipping, it could be due to the fact that the 7th gen is in its mid to end cycle of its life.

In general the 7th gen Civic was not a decent seller compared to previous models of Civics. As I said most of the cars that classed with the Civic are better equipped for less money. You cannot tell me that the Mazda 3 does not give you more for your dollar man. A bigger engine with much more torque. Better designed interior, better available options does optional HIDs come to mind ?

Options for the Civic is minimal at the least, cars like the Jetta have more available options than the Civic. Even the Echo Hatchback (for Canadians) has more options.

If Honda wants to relive the 90's where it dominated the Sub compact/compact market. It is going to have to turn the Civic into a more competitive product.
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Hey I don't know if you know this or not but in Canada the Honda Civic was the second best selling vehicle second only to the Ford F-150 truck. Also it has been the number one selling car in its class for five consecutive years here.
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Yes that is true it has been a good seller, however with tougher competition the Civic will fall from its no. 1 spot.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy driving my Civic. However, it is getting a bit old.

Hopefully Honda will give it a much needed update in pretty much every category. (Interior, powertrain, exterior) with the 8th gen.
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maybe civic will suffer like the corolla. 10-15 years ago, the corolla was on top. i think the appeal of the car is more important than the bang for the buck. the corolla lost its appeal so the civic became the king of the small cars. unless the civic loses its appeal, it will still reign in sales. this concept works for all japanese cars. look at the camry and accords. 90% of their sales come from the 4 bangers. taurus, altimas and malibus offered better bang for yourbuck, but their sales was nothing compared to the camrys and accords. so the bottomline is appeal, not features.

... well thats what i think at least hehe
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honda should start making trucks!
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hence the SUT......it's only v6 though....

anyway, i do also think that honda need to re-design their product totally.....and get a big bang again in the market...

hopefully 8thgen will do the trick..
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Originally posted by mrchowmein
where did you get your stats from? and is this list only from the start of 2004 till now may? cuz i remember the civic had a record high of 330k sold in 2002. my stats came from honda.
This list is only for this year so far. I got it from MSN auto if I remember.
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Originally posted by MrWong
Come on man, the Civic used to be a killer for sales. Since the introduction of 3, Civic sales are slipping, it could be due to the fact that the 7th gen is in its mid to end cycle of its life.

How is the number #3 top seliing car in the country NOT a killer for sales? How is going from #7 last year to #6 this year slipping?

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You cannot tell me that the Mazda 3 does not give you more for your dollar man. A bigger engine with much more torque. Better designed interior, better available options does optional HIDs come to mind ?
I dont care if you like the Mazda 3, that's not what this thread was about. Where did I tell you that it wasn't a good deal? Nowhere. Maybe if you feel so strongly about the Mada 3 you should go sell them, that way you can tell the people who aren't buying them how great they are. Either way I could care less, I simply posted the list of the top sellers and commented that I was surprised the civic was still so strong despite rather tough competition.
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Originally posted by Jollysid
How is the number #3 top seliing car in the country NOT a killer for sales? How is going from #7 last year to #6 this year slipping?



I dont care if you like the Mazda 3, that's not what this thread was about. Where did I tell you that it wasn't a good deal? Nowhere. Maybe if you feel so strongly about the Mada 3 you should go sell them, that way you can tell the people who aren't buying them how great they are. Either way I could care less, I simply posted the list of the top sellers and commented that I was surprised the civic was still so strong despite rather tough competition.
If you have read the post more carefully, then you will see that said, if Honda does not make more improvements to the next line of Civics. Then they will continue to lost market share, however I am sure they are hard at work doing that right now. We just have to wait a year or so to see what they bring out.
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Originally posted by MrWong
If you have read the post more carefully, then you will see that said, if Honda does not make more improvements to the next line of Civics. Then they will continue to lost market share, however I am sure they are hard at work doing that right now. We just have to wait a year or so to see what they bring out.
Well I really didn;t get that from what you wrote, but if that's waht you meant then fine. My point was that I was surprised to see that the Civic is NOT losing their market share. They're gaining(at least in the short term). I actually agree that there's cars out there in the the civics' class that have passed in performance in styling in a many ways, but according to the sales numbers they haven't been able pull people away from the civic. Now I certainly hope they continue to improve the civic, but would it even matter? Are people going to buy civics anyway? It seems so...
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seriously dudes,

civic's better than corrola...

but camry might be better than accord...

in term of people's preference..
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Yeah ford maybe on the top, but think about it hondas rule and thats it, anyone driving a ford is garanteed to be in the shop at least 7 days a week. FORD SUCK
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Yeah, the civic is still doing well but not quite as well as in the past. This is due is part to the civic itself but also in part to a market becoming saturated with cars in the same class.

Also, you have to remember that the honda name is what sells the cars, not the features.

Lastly, toyota sells a lot more camrys to fleet accounts than honda sells accords. Honda doesn't like to discount it's cars for fleet accounts.

In the end, honda is suffering a little bit in the sales department. This is why you are seeing a lot more advertising from them.
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Civics are cool, but I am tired of the ricer profiling in my area.
Anyone wanna buy my car?
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bwahahaha... this was totally weird. off topic, and you brought back an old post
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yea trucks are at the top becuase like 75% of america is non urban.
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Originally Posted by MrWong
I am sure the 3 and the Neon will take some sales away from the Civic. After both of those cars are better equipped than the Civic, Honda has really gone down with the Civic. It is not competitive anymore.
ahh, just wait. they probably let the civic slide a gen, so that the next gen will be twice as good. maybe k20a in all civics?!?

my friend who's a car dealer tries selling me a Mazda 3, where it has 160 hp at 2.3 litres. i just respond that honda has a 2.0 liter that makes 200 hp!
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That is weird the Impala is so high... I rarley see them in San Antonio
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im not suprised trucks ar the top


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