*UPDATED AGAIN* SRT-4's Falling apart before 10,000 miles!! *UPDATED*
Originally posted by gearbox
I was referring to the poeple from the neon site having to come to a civic forum to defend their car. I already know my civic is sweet, so you don't see me coming to your site and telling you that.
I was referring to the poeple from the neon site having to come to a civic forum to defend their car. I already know my civic is sweet, so you don't see me coming to your site and telling you that.
in fact there are regularly posts in appreciation of all different types of cars over there.
My coworker had a 98 neon expresso
Took care of his baby. He was so excited when he only had 1 month left to go to pay his car off. Next thing you know I see him at work the next day saying his car threw a rod. :x I guess it did good tho cause he drove it around alot. Had about 190k miles.
Im a bit curious how the 7th gen civics will stand in terms of reliability down the road considering they are all produced in ohio with the exception of the civic si. US built hondas have had some wierd issues like in the accord v6 where their tranny freezes on the freeway. :x But I guess time is really the only thing that will tell from here on out. Im sure honda would make sure that their ohio factories are to quality spec just to maintain that trust of reliability.
But I still hate neons
Just cause too. Flame on
Btw, where are the neons built?
Took care of his baby. He was so excited when he only had 1 month left to go to pay his car off. Next thing you know I see him at work the next day saying his car threw a rod. :x I guess it did good tho cause he drove it around alot. Had about 190k miles. Originally posted by smoger
yeah man, keep tellin yourself that. like someone mentioned before,..people make excuses to make themselves feel better about things.. so if you really want to believe the reliability of the srt is that much worse than the civic, be my guest.
yeah man, keep tellin yourself that. like someone mentioned before,..people make excuses to make themselves feel better about things.. so if you really want to believe the reliability of the srt is that much worse than the civic, be my guest.
But I still hate neons
Just cause too. Flame on
Btw, where are the neons built? Last edited by Niter1dah; Dec 7, 2003 at 04:26 PM.
Come on Smoger,
think about what you are saying. Dodge makes cars that are more reliable then Honda? If a person has 20k to spend on a car and that is it, that 20k is all he has to spend on a car, only and idiot would get an SRT4. I noticed that a lot of you SRT4 owners just keep regurgitating the samething (best sports car money can buy). I find it that a person who bought the SRT4 just for that fact alone is once again lying to himself.
I am sure that most of the people who bought the SRT would be the type of person who would buy like a 95 Lexus ES300 and say... it maybe old and a POS but hey, its a Lexus.
For 20k you could of went out and bought yourself a real car like a Supra, 3000GT easily for example. But why not? Because most people who bought the SRT4 are not the car enthusiets that you claim because you got a car that is already done.
Bottom line is that you guys gotta stop b!tching about buying a great car for the money because it is not. For 20k you can buy a crap load of cars that are faster then the SRT4.
For me it would be more fun to buy a slow @ss car like a Civic and tune it up to be fast.
If you claim that the Dodge cars are no different then Hondas then can you explain why Hondas keep their value a lot longer then Dodges?
^^ I have a feeling you will say something stupid regarding my question so I will answer it for you.
How is the car's resale value determinded? Simple, the greater the demand for a car model is, the higher the price. In case you dont derive the answer from that, I'll explain a little further. Hondas stay in value because the demand for used Hondas is great; because they are known to be reliables and smart people buy reliable cars. Dodges and all domestics drop in value because not many people want a used Dodge and in case to sell pre-owned Dodge the prices have to be very low in order to attarct the dumb@ss gullible public.
Before you post something stupid such as claiming that Dodge makes cars that are just as reliable as Honda, please think about it.
think about what you are saying. Dodge makes cars that are more reliable then Honda? If a person has 20k to spend on a car and that is it, that 20k is all he has to spend on a car, only and idiot would get an SRT4. I noticed that a lot of you SRT4 owners just keep regurgitating the samething (best sports car money can buy). I find it that a person who bought the SRT4 just for that fact alone is once again lying to himself.
I am sure that most of the people who bought the SRT would be the type of person who would buy like a 95 Lexus ES300 and say... it maybe old and a POS but hey, its a Lexus.
For 20k you could of went out and bought yourself a real car like a Supra, 3000GT easily for example. But why not? Because most people who bought the SRT4 are not the car enthusiets that you claim because you got a car that is already done.
Bottom line is that you guys gotta stop b!tching about buying a great car for the money because it is not. For 20k you can buy a crap load of cars that are faster then the SRT4.
For me it would be more fun to buy a slow @ss car like a Civic and tune it up to be fast.
If you claim that the Dodge cars are no different then Hondas then can you explain why Hondas keep their value a lot longer then Dodges?
^^ I have a feeling you will say something stupid regarding my question so I will answer it for you.
How is the car's resale value determinded? Simple, the greater the demand for a car model is, the higher the price. In case you dont derive the answer from that, I'll explain a little further. Hondas stay in value because the demand for used Hondas is great; because they are known to be reliables and smart people buy reliable cars. Dodges and all domestics drop in value because not many people want a used Dodge and in case to sell pre-owned Dodge the prices have to be very low in order to attarct the dumb@ss gullible public.
Before you post something stupid such as claiming that Dodge makes cars that are just as reliable as Honda, please think about it.
Originally posted by drizze99
So you are also saying that the German engineering in BMW's, Audi's, Porsche's, & Mercedes Benz is crap also? IMO, they have some of the best engineering in the world. The SRT-4 was designed and engineered by an elite group of DCX engineers called PVO. PVO is also the group that brought us the Viper. PVO is also the group that is bringing SRT-10 Ram and a few other specialty vehicles that will kick some serious ***. So YES, Dodge did build a better car withe the SRT-4 and I'm not lying to myself.
So you are also saying that the German engineering in BMW's, Audi's, Porsche's, & Mercedes Benz is crap also? IMO, they have some of the best engineering in the world. The SRT-4 was designed and engineered by an elite group of DCX engineers called PVO. PVO is also the group that brought us the Viper. PVO is also the group that is bringing SRT-10 Ram and a few other specialty vehicles that will kick some serious ***. So YES, Dodge did build a better car withe the SRT-4 and I'm not lying to myself.
Originally posted by HustleLikeMOFO
If you claim that the Dodge cars are no different then Hondas then can you explain why Hondas keep their value a lot longer then Dodges?
^^ I have a feeling you will say something stupid regarding my question so I will answer it for you.
If you claim that the Dodge cars are no different then Hondas then can you explain why Hondas keep their value a lot longer then Dodges?
^^ I have a feeling you will say something stupid regarding my question so I will answer it for you.
Originally posted by HustleLikeMOFO
Come on Smoger,
think about what you are saying. Dodge makes cars that are more reliable then Honda?
Come on Smoger,
think about what you are saying. Dodge makes cars that are more reliable then Honda?
i said that? (hint: no.)
If a person has 20k to spend on a car and that is it, that 20k is all he has to spend on a car, only and idiot would get an SRT4.
I noticed that a lot of you SRT4 owners just keep regurgitating the samething (best sports car money can buy). I find it that a person who bought the SRT4 just for that fact alone is once again lying to himself.
I am sure that most of the people who bought the SRT would be the type of person who would buy like a 95 Lexus ES300 and say... it maybe old and a POS but hey, its a Lexus.
For 20k you could of went out and bought yourself a real car like a Supra, 3000GT easily for example.
those cars can only be had for 20k used . most of us wanted a warranty. i was considering a dodge stealth before i bought the srt-4,.. i decided to pay more and get the srt because i was more confident in the reliability of a new warrantied car.
But why not? Because most people who bought the SRT4 are not the car enthusiets that you claim because you got a car that is already done.
Bottom line is that you guys gotta stop b!tching about buying a great car for the money because it is not. For 20k you can buy a crap load of cars that are faster then the SRT4.
For me it would be more fun to buy a slow @ss car like a Civic and tune it up to be fast.
If you claim that the Dodge cars are no different then Hondas then can you explain why Hondas keep their value a lot longer then Dodges?
^^ I have a feeling you will say something stupid regarding my question so I will answer it for you.
How is the car's resale value determinded? Simple, the greater the demand for a car model is, the higher the price. In case you dont derive the answer from that, I'll explain a little further. Hondas stay in value because the demand for used Hondas is great; because they are known to be reliables and smart people buy reliable cars. Dodges and all domestics drop in value because not many people want a used Dodge and in case to sell pre-owned Dodge the prices have to be very low in order to attarct the dumb@ss gullible public.
Before you post something stupid such as claiming that Dodge makes cars that are just as reliable as Honda, please think about it.
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lol, the only reason I'm here is for the amusement of seeing you guys trying so hard to defend your neons. I agree with HustleLike **** on most of this. Oh and I'm not ignorant. I know your car has a turbo and is faster from the factory. Why doesn't this bother me? I'll get twice as many looks driving in my civic than I ever would in a neon. I don't see the need to have a fast car, but I guess some of you neon owners do. Otherwise, you would not have bought it. Have fun racing around town in your car. I rarely see the need to push my car past 4K rpms.
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Originally posted by drizze99
The SRT-4 was designed and engineered by an elite group of DCX engineers called PVO. PVO is also the group that brought us the Viper. PVO is also the group that is bringing SRT-10 Ram and a few other specialty vehicles that will kick some serious ***. So YES, Dodge did build a better car withe the SRT-4 and I'm not lying to myself.
The SRT-4 was designed and engineered by an elite group of DCX engineers called PVO. PVO is also the group that brought us the Viper. PVO is also the group that is bringing SRT-10 Ram and a few other specialty vehicles that will kick some serious ***. So YES, Dodge did build a better car withe the SRT-4 and I'm not lying to myself.
have you ever seen how a viper is held together?? Its quite sad really. Think shim city, and thats just to get the body panles to line up.
Originally posted by gearbox
lol, the only reason I'm here is for the amusement of seeing you guys trying so hard to defend your neons. I agree with HustleLike **** on most of this. Oh and I'm not ignorant. I know your car has a turbo and is faster from the factory. Why doesn't this bother me? I'll get twice as many looks driving in my civic than I ever would in a neon. I don't see the need to have a fast car, but I guess some of you neon owners do. Otherwise, you would not have bought it. Have fun racing around town in your car. I rarely see the need to push my car past 4K rpms.
lol, the only reason I'm here is for the amusement of seeing you guys trying so hard to defend your neons. I agree with HustleLike **** on most of this. Oh and I'm not ignorant. I know your car has a turbo and is faster from the factory. Why doesn't this bother me? I'll get twice as many looks driving in my civic than I ever would in a neon. I don't see the need to have a fast car, but I guess some of you neon owners do. Otherwise, you would not have bought it. Have fun racing around town in your car. I rarely see the need to push my car past 4K rpms.
i have people stopping to ask about my car CONSTANTLY. It's funny I am always being complimented by people with VDubs, RSX's etc., and yet the Civic crowd thinks they are above all these cars somehow.
Some people have been pulled over in srt's because the cop wanted to check the car out. i think thats saying a lot.
you ARE ignorant, because none of the srt members here are using the argument that our car is faster than a civic. everyone on this board knows that..
nd you're right, for driving around town, no need to go past 4k,.. but us srt owners also have the option of going to the track and having fun on the weekends. not that civics cant but, i think you see my point here..
I'm tired of argueing with smoger because he keeps proving to me that there is no point of arguing with him (his previous post breaking down my post). When I asked him "Why didnt you get a real car like a Supra" and smoger answered "I assure you the SRT4 is a real car, it has seats and wheels"... that was enough for me to stop using facts to prove to him that the SRT is just another Dodge.
And yes, I'm glad that the SRT4 is a real car, not a fake car like a civic... just when i thought smoger had valid point to prove me wrong he says a whole bunch of things that have nothing to do with anything (ie "I assure you the SRT4 is a real car, it has wheels and seats lmao)
People liek smoger give SRT4 owners a bad name like rice boys give Honda owners a bad name.
And yes, I'm glad that the SRT4 is a real car, not a fake car like a civic... just when i thought smoger had valid point to prove me wrong he says a whole bunch of things that have nothing to do with anything (ie "I assure you the SRT4 is a real car, it has wheels and seats lmao)
People liek smoger give SRT4 owners a bad name like rice boys give Honda owners a bad name.
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