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ok, seriously, what is the difference in intakes?

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ok, seriously, what is the difference in intakes?

I know this is yet another topic thats been beaten severly to death. but what in the hell is the difference between intakes? besides cold air and short ram, does the brand matter? AEM hump, what about it? whats with the V2 crap? two pipes in one make my hampster run faster? isnt an intake just a friggin' pipe and a filter? can someone explain the REAL difference between brands or what not, WITHOUT THE FLAME?

edit: Im basicallt posting this in response to the last two intake threads, im just looking for opinions
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Some intakes are made to control airflow better on the inside then others. I don't remember who told me this but here goes. AEM for example has the golf ball effect on the inside. What I mean by this is, a golf ball has little dents all over it. These little "dents" fill with air and make the surface of the ball smoother therefore the ball travels faster and further through the air. The inside of the AEM intake is pretty much the same thing with the same effect. Much better air flow therefore increasing more power. Hope this helps. It was someone on this site that told me this.
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I think they're all the same, and the filter is more important than the piping. However, AEM and Injen have CARB exemptions, which are important if you live in California.
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The filter has a lot to do with it too but not all piping is the same. That is what I was explaining. Everyone knows that not all filters are the same.
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The filter has a lot to do with it too but not all piping is the same. That is what I was explaining. Everyone knows that not all filters are the same.[hr]
A filter worth $199.00 (AEM) sure as hell better not be the same as a cheap filter that's $79 offa ebay. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/IMG]
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u really wanna know the difference... NAME!!!! the only differences there are in intakes are CAI and SRI.. all u fools can flame all u want but i dont care. flame and it will show how hung on names u really are..
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some people over complicate issues......really its just a freakin pipe.
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its a filter on a stick.

buy whatever is cheaper.
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its a filter on a stick.

buy whatever is cheaper.[hr]
Acknowledged. Btw: you seem to be the only male alive with PMS.

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ill give it to you simple.

sri = 0 to -1 hp+
cai = 0- 1 hp+

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dont buy whatever is cheaper. You get a product worth what you paid. AEM or Injen only.
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some people over complicate issues......really its just a freakin pipe.[hr]

Really just a pipe huh? Some people really are dumb. Go pick up the Honda Tunning where they did dyno runs with like 6 different CAI's for the RSX. There is a big difference in different types of intakes. The AEM CAI gave almost a 20whp gain. It was 19.6 or something like that. If you think I'm lieing, then the dyno graphs must be lieing. I'll find out which issue it was and I'll report back. You and some other people need some educating.
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ill give it to you simple.

sri = 0 to -1 hp+
cai = 0- 1 hp+[hr]
Once again, not completely true. It all depends on the application.
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I think the main diff is sound!
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Another one that needs some educating.
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well, didnt mean to get everyone all worked up about pipes and filters. lol. well isnt CAI better cuz you can remove the extension and use it as a SRI??
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I agree with Joe. It is a filter on a stick. Most every intake comes with a k&n style filter if not the almighty brand itself.

I think the location of the filter and the material the "stICK" is made from are what's important. They're basically all the same except for those 2 things. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/IMG]
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Hey SkipBarber, the CAI is better. You can change it to SRI for the winter season or rainy season. Everyone has their opinions on brands but i can honestly give a real opinion on the two best intakes on the market. I first had the AEM CAI. The throttle response was much better and at about 4000 rpm's you hear a nice bassy sound. But i really liked the look of the INJEN CAI (fully polished. So i sold the AEM and bought the INJEN. It is a true cold air where the filter goes inside the bumper, not in front of the engine like the AEM. The injen is much louder, especially at higher rpm's. And my car pulls harder now than when i had the AEM. Injen, better performance, looks, and awesome sound!!
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Hey SkipBarber, the CAI is better. You can change it to SRI for the winter season or rainy season. Everyone has their opinions on brands but i can honestly give a real opinion on the two best intakes on the market. I first had the AEM CAI. The throttle response was much better and at about 4000 rpm's you hear a nice bassy sound. But i really liked the look of the INJEN CAI (fully polished. So i sold the AEM and bought the INJEN. It is a true cold air where the filter goes inside the bumper, not in front of the engine like the AEM. The injen is much louder, especially at higher rpm's. And my car pulls harder now than when i had the AEM. Injen, better performance, looks, and awesome sound!![hr]
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I have the polished Injen CAI as well. I don't care what anyone says, I could definately feel the difference after I had installed it. It obviously wasn't a huge gain but there definately was a substantial gain tourque wise. I feel the difference from about 3500rpm to redline. I also think it's much louder then the AEM CAI.
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i dont want loud, i want deep
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Trust me. It is a deep tone. It's not a loud like ricey loud.
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How come nobody mentioned the K&N intake? Isn't that also considered a good brand/intake?
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The K&N FIPK II (K&N's short ram intake with heat shield) is awesome. After much research I decided on this one. I actually wrote a review of it somewhere here. Do a search. I could tell a difference in performance. It sounds cool, too, but it's only noticable after 3500-4000rpm or so, so it's not all ricey sounding.

Some people have said they noticed gains with this one when they switched to it from other's (AEM, Injen, etc.). Without actual dynos, though, who knows.

I recommend it, however.

Side note: AEM CAI gives +20whp on the RSX?!! Holy ****!

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yea, and a K&N drop in can get you a 20% increase in power. Ads are bullshit, and so are magazines who are completly dependant on ad money.
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ok, seriously, there's no difference.

and for the dude that wants to flash the Honda Tuning article... thats great.

how about I flash InJen's dyno graph on their CAI for our car on their website? Know how much hp I saw there? like 2-3. wow. And this is from InJen themselves. They put it up to compete with AEM, saying they're better... AEM made 1 hp increase.. while they made 2-3.

Wow thats awesome! $200 for 2-3 hp that you can't feel.

and this is from Injen themselves.

you can't find it on their site anymore, I wonder why. I guess they realized its not smart advertising.

its a filter and a pipe.

things that matters: length of pipe, diameter of pipe, filter quality, volume of air, pressure of air, location of filter, amounts of bend in pipping...

but you know what? in a 1,668 cc engine... with a restrictive cat convertor... and a plastic throttle body that doesnt' flow too much air... and an engine that was meant for fule economy more than performance...

do you seriously, think it matters?

all I care about, is that it doesn't lose low end, or lose hp.

so IMO, if you got the dough, grab the K&N FIPK, at least K&N put some design into it.
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lol, when i started this thread, i was actually interested in something...now im about to say f**k it and get myself something useful for myself..like a new monitor for my computer...not a filter on a stick

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The intake doesn't do a lot itself per se...the bolt-ons work in unison. If you pull more air in, you need to get more air out.

2-3hp isn't much but it will make a small difference on the higway and when you race or drop down a gear. Add a header with the downpipe and get say 5hp and an exhaust with 1hp. You got 8-10hp and you will notice it in the top-end and you'll be noticeably faster than a stock civic after 50-55mph.

You do lose low-end but you gain additional power in the top-end. A stock motor chokes the topend which is where the rpms stay when driving aggressively or racing.

A bolt-on motor boggs in the lowend where most everyone does most of their driving. So, stock you get better driveability but loose the performance come race time.

I drive like a grandma on the daily commute. I don't take off at every green light. Feathering the clutch out aggressively takes care of the times I need to jump across traffic or pull out quickly. It's just a matter of preference in the end I guess. I love the sounds and they make the car a lot more fun to drive regardless of what they actually do.

In the end, it's a hobby and it's not for the light-walleted.

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ill give it to you simple.

sri = 0 to -1 hp+
cai = 0- 1 hp+[hr]
Once again, not completely true. It all depends on the application. [hr]
are we talking about rsxs? if you forgot this is a 7th gen CIVIC site.
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AEM no problems if u r willin to pay try it out if not try something else within your budget

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