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So when is the spacers getting shipped out? I really want to get the pulley on, but I'll have to wait for the spacer.

 
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EVERYONE!!! Hehe for sure man, I want everyone to run it and it will take away from the groove on the timing gear that Honda changed which makes the pulley sit further in then we expected.

 
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Tuesday they will be done. Being cut from billet right now. Priority mail

 
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Props for being humble about it and willing to work it out but the "trial and error" should not be at the customer's expense.

And BTW Exospeed will be offering all of this for the d17 very soon. These types of design flaws will not be allowed when competition is introduced.

 
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any chance that the spacer will throw off the balence?

 
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I wouldn't bet any money on "competition" not getting flamed for every part they make that someone has a problem with.

Trial and Error is a part of everyday life, grow up, its fixed

 
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I would love to sell you some parts. It is not acceptable to dump your products on the customer without proper r&d.

 
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Dober, settle down please.

 
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Mad props that you were able to get up here and find a solution so quick bro, for those who havent bought this pully yet will you be sending the spacer out with them? or is a redesign neccessary?

 
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dober is one of the few ppl on this site that actually know's their ****. He's not a bandwagoner like most ppl.

 
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He has made his point. He doesn't need to keep bashing.

Honda releases cars every year that have defects yet he still bought one and I don't see him complaining about honda. He seems to love honda.

 
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I think when it comes to "bandwagoners" it's all in the eye of the beholder. It really doesn't matter what dyno or timeslip or what is posted, people don't truely believe anything until they have it themselves. Take AEM's CAI. What about the dyno they posted?

Products have to be initially bought by some people, and if your first to try out a new part, you're walking into it knowing no one else has used it before.

Even if DH had posted some dyno sheet of what this pulley did, and they didn't have any problems installing it, there would still be people complaining when someone finally found a fault. In this case the company owned up to it and immediately dispatched a fix.

Being the first in purchasing a product comes with its pro's and cons, getting a lower price, but not knowing fully what the product has to offer. It just comes with the territory.

 
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Is it possible to just use the dual groove pulley for the crank and P/S and not use the AC? a shorter belt maybe and remove all the ac equiptment? because I don't really ever need AC in NorCal, I have a sunroof for that.

 
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You can always just leave the A/C belt off and not use it. Just disconnect the button so you don't accidently press it

And yeah, with every custom part for our cars, you run the risk of it not fitting or working properly. Look at the SF turbos, altezzas, and other aftermarket stuff. People even have more problems with stock parts failing or not working right. Just look at the thousands of posts in the vehicle issues forum!

 
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Ok Man, you know I already clearly stated this. The pulley WILL WORK, but it ever so slightly rubs the crank sensor THUS I sent a quick fix for anyone out there who isn't cool with that. It will not change balance, throw off anything or do any damage. I didn't EVEN HAVE TO SAY anything about it and everyone probably would have put it on and vuala, but I took it upon myself being a perfectionist to make this to make everyone see that we car about perfection. It wasn't at the cost of the customer because it was designed just about flawlessly, and nothing happened to your cars, it was at the expense of our pride and buckling down to say hey a "Just Incase" for customers who want to use it. I realize you know more then most on here, but I have been in this game for quite some time now before AEM came about, before JG was doing anything more then racing there B20 Vtec spraying oil all over the place around the streets, and before Crower was more then a large Mortgage company with a son who liked to race...I know all about how this scene came about and the HUGE flaws that nearly costs these big name companies like us their fame. This is something oh so minor that shows the quality is truely genuine. If you read into horror stories in the past of Crower, JG, and see the parts they came out with and what happened. Lets look at STR, their throttle body they came out with Leaks and will not hold an Idle PERIOD, think how many people have to deal with something like that, not something like this that changes no performance at all. I'm not trying to sit on here and fight about this. I haven't had any problems on here, nor do I want any. I just dont like feeling as if you are bashing me for something we shold be commended for. We didn't design it with a flaw other then a little rubbing. Sorry if I come off harsh, but I just want to explain that there is much worse things out there, and for something this which doesn't damage anything or chance your motor I don't see the big deal for being honest about the small clearance that can be fixed or left alone if you want. Again this is not like me to get upset and go on and on about something, but I have to stand my ground when I feel we made a quality part that one customer has already stated works, and shows gains.

 
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On this note. Do you see the companies we compete with now. We just broke into the D17's, and we at the very top in employees to profit margins, with motors, and setups that have been around since the late 80's so bring the competition on I love it. It makes us work harder to prove excellence. We have been pushing Honda's since 1990 before most anyone was doing it, had the all motor world record in 1997, and have the fastest B16 in the world, and we haven't drove it since 2001. Dave also has the worlds fastest all motor street Honda in the Garage, so the pressure it was makes us produce numbers. I see now this being a vendetta against us or something. I never wanted this to turn ugly, but it's a chance you take in this and I accept that.

 
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I look at you guys with a critical eye simply because I've done my homework on DH Racing. That is more than I can say for the common 7th gen bandwagon jumper. I'm not gonna ruin your thread, I just know that there are alot of people on here who buy first without researching. Being a member of this site since it's inception, I feel the need to lookout for them.

With that said, if any company thinks they can come on here and make rediculous HP claims without backing them up with a dyno chart, then they'd better prepare to hear from me. It won't turn ugly I will just call you out on your claims and that will be that. I don't think that is asking for much. You develop a part, you provide a dyno chart to back up your claim. Not a dyno chart from a different application, a dyno chart from a D17. Dyno pulls here in Florida are 3 for $80 they can't be much more in Cali.

I like your attitude and willingness to make things right, people/companies do make mistakes from time to time and it's the people who are willing to stand by their product that stay in business.

P.S. - Isn't Dave's "b16" stroked to a 2.1?

 
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Dave's B16 was in 2001, 84mm pistons and stock 77mm stroke which is why people spun at the line and he soared on. The 2.1 liter is our all motor setup we messed with in the past. Thanks for keeping it civil, and I commend you for your claims of the people on here who have lack of knowledge about the scene.

 
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Speedy fix..Thanks for lookin out.....Hey josh drop one of those d17 engines you bought in your car..That way youll be slow as we are and develop more stuff beacuse youll want it to.LOL..At least itll be a cheap swap.......

 
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Yeah, thanks for the fix. The problem wasn't that major, and other companies have screwed up alot worse. Anyone remember the KMS manifold? What a disaster that was

 
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It happens to the best of us, I am just glad it was a simple as this and not detrimental

 
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i defintely think that Josh has already shown his commitment to this board and great customer service. what questions have we asked that he hasn't answered? NONE. how many times has he nicely put up with people's whining? EVERYTIME. he's even given us his cell phone number, how many vendors do you know who do that?

heck, even with the group buy Josh stuck to his guns and gave us $15 off when it was only a posting error.

i'm not kissing up to these guys but i hate it when people get treated unfairly.

i know for sure that i'll be trusting these guys with the money and time i put into my car.

 
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Appreciate the comment

 
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oh man so there is a fix to the sensor rubbing problem? i just got my car back to normal last night. i still dont like the 'no keyway find' option but this crush washer might change my mind.

 
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How much was the sensor that you had to replace?

 
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I think if you design a part you should post the numbers on that particular application. Makes sense especialy on a 7thgenc site. And not a dyno chart made on notepad like AEM does.

 
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so true...so true

I hate how now all of the sudden everyone wants a PnP job......95% of the ppl on this site doesn't even know what that means but they are gonna do it and b/c everyone else is. I wanted to do it b4 and still do b/c i understand how sohc motors make power b/c i did my research.

 
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Yeah, I think alot of people did for the pulley, including me. I didn't even know where the stock part was. At least I know a bit more about the cylinder head and how it works.

And there should be some kind of dynos for the parts being offered. Alot of what I've been hearing are estimated hp gains and speculation. Maybe concrete results would make people feel better about what they're getting. Although, people still buy an AEM intake knowing that it's only gonna make 1-2hp. So I'm lost anymore...

 
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does the spacer change the belt sizes or can we go buy those at least? i hate just waiting, for this to be installed, but im glad that ill know that it is perfect when it goes on.

 
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"How much was the sensor that you had to replace?"

luckily the sensor wasn't damaged. it was like $80 for normal people but i got a friend of mine who is a mexhanic at Ford to get me his discount so it was only $50. after putting the stock pulley back on everything was fine. i'll give it another shot after i get the crush washer. if everything looks promising i'll reinstall it. shouldnt be hard now that i know what belt sizes to use and how to install it. should take less than an hour now. i'll see what i can do about a DIY. the install really is easy.