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Cigarette Lighter Fuse on With Car Starter

I had a car starter installed in my dad's 2003 Civic 4 door last year. Earlier this year I ordered a cheap cigarette lighter seat heater to use in this car.

Currently, my rear defrost goes on as soon as my car is started by my remote starter. I purchased a female cigarette lighter adapter and now I'd like to have the additional female cigarette lighter adapter go on as soon as my car is remote started, so I my cheap seat heater will also be warm.

I haven't done anything electrical on this car, so not sure where to start. On my NSX, there were additional power tabs under the dash. Not sure if this car some & if any of them will actually get power with the remote starter and no key in the ignition?

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Re: Cigarette Lighter Fuse on With Car Starter

Do you have volt meter or test light?

This is is a good source the12volt.com One of the ignition wires will be hot once started and stay hot until the car is turned off.

Some remote starters have auxiliary outputs that you can program to do extra tasks. Maybe yours could do this with an added relay.
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Re: Cigarette Lighter Fuse on With Car Starter

The 12V ACC/Lighter socket should power, once the car is started....
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Re: Cigarette Lighter Fuse on With Car Starter

I know on my 05 the radio (aftermarket) stays off until I put the key in and turn it which is nice, I'll check if the 12V socket is on or not
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Re: Cigarette Lighter Fuse on With Car Starter

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Do you have volt meter or test light?

This is is a good source the12volt.com One of the ignition wires will be hot once started and stay hot until the car is turned off.

Some remote starters have auxiliary outputs that you can program to do extra tasks. Maybe yours could do this with an added relay.
Yes I have both of those.

Any diagrams or links to find those wires? I don't have a service manual for this car.
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Re: Cigarette Lighter Fuse on With Car Starter

should be a link in this thread for a pdf of the service manual

https://www.civicforums.com/forums/1...pdated-10.html
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Re: Cigarette Lighter Fuse on With Car Starter

So I downloaded the service manual & have been looking at the pages around 2080ish. I really don't understand this stuff. So not sure where the wire/fuse I would need is physically in the car and in the service manual diagrams.

I'm really not good with this stuff, so I'll take more advice.
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Re: Cigarette Lighter Fuse on With Car Starter

Have you checked if the 12 volt socket has power when you use the remote start?
Mine doesn't but your car may be different.
If you look at 2066 and 2067 in that pdf manual you'll see the there are 2 optional connectors 26 and 27, you could check if they are hot with the car remote started.
I have the power for my fog lights plugged into one of those connectors, it gives me switched +12V so that if the car is off the lights won't stay on.
Or you can tap in to the ignition switch harness for +12 when running. Just use a test light or meter to figure it out
Or you can check the remote start manual and see what options that has.

But realistically, the seat heater takes maybe 2 min to get warm?
And the car will have already been running for a few mins so it will be warmer in the car when he gets in.
Personally I would just get in and start driving and in less than 2 mins the seat heater will be warm.
If you're not good with electrical/wiring this is probably your best option
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Re: Cigarette Lighter Fuse on With Car Starter

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Have you checked if the 12 volt socket has power when you use the remote start?
Mine doesn't but your car may be different.
If you look at 2066 and 2067 in that pdf manual you'll see the there are 2 optional connectors 26 and 27, you could check if they are hot with the car remote started.
I have the power for my fog lights plugged into one of those connectors, it gives me switched +12V so that if the car is off the lights won't stay on.
Or you can tap in to the ignition switch harness for +12 when running. Just use a test light or meter to figure it out
Or you can check the remote start manual and see what options that has.

But realistically, the seat heater takes maybe 2 min to get warm?
And the car will have already been running for a few mins so it will be warmer in the car when he gets in.
Personally I would just get in and start driving and in less than 2 mins the seat heater will be warm.
If you're not good with electrical/wiring this is probably your best option
Cigarette lighter doesn't have power when the car is started by a remote starter.

I'll have a look at those pages. You know the weather we have in Canada (Montreal) and my black *** doesn't like a cold seat even if it takes a few minutes to get warm....lol

Thanks I'll take a look.
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Re: Cigarette Lighter Fuse on With Car Starter

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You know the weather we have in Canada (Montreal) and my black *** doesn't like a cold seat even if it takes a few minutes to get warm....lol
Understood


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Re: Cigarette Lighter Fuse on With Car Starter

Haha!
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Re: Cigarette Lighter Fuse on With Car Starter

I think the easiest solution here would be to move South until a seat warmer is no longer needed.
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Re: Cigarette Lighter Fuse on With Car Starter

Stock lighter socket is powered on the ACCY (accessory) circuit, and most remote start kits only power up enough IGN circuits (1 and/or 2) to run the engine and its electronics (depends on the installer though, some are far smarter than others).

Simply connect your new lighter socket #2 to one of the IGN circuits that the remote start is powering to run the engine, that will make it powered when the remote start is in use and still be powered whenever the key in in the run position. (but not accy position)


Beware of cheapo seat heaters. I had one (came out of a used car trade in) and it lasted about 2 years in my car (no idea how old it was when I got it).....then it became a freekin toaster and burned itself, MY ***, and left melted plastic stuck to my seat fabric in a few places-----I smelled acrid plastic smoke while driving along and pulled the plug, then a short while later I discovered the actual damage.
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Re: Cigarette Lighter Fuse on With Car Starter

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Beware of cheapo seat heaters. I had one (came out of a used car trade in) and it lasted about 2 years in my car (no idea how old it was when I got it).....then it became a freekin toaster and burned itself, MY ***, and left melted plastic stuck to my seat fabric in a few places-----I smelled acrid plastic smoke while driving along and pulled the plug, then a short while later I discovered the actual damage.
Yikes! I have one and always wondered when I might get tasered in the a$$ if it ever crapped out.

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Yikes! I have one and always wondered when I might get tasered in the a$$ if it ever crapped out.
I suggest a bath towel between seat and heater
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